July 10, 2025Jul 10 With the announcement by Aerosoft/Toliss of the A340, and the iniBuilds announcement of the A340 as well, I realized that within 2 years, MSFS will have a decent fidelity version of every modern Boeing and Airbus airliner. Maybe it won't have all the variants, but I think within 2 years, every modern Boeing and Airbus will be represented in the simulator, at a decent fidelity. And by decent fidelity, I am referring to at least iniBuilds/FBW fidelity, or above: Airbus: A220 - upcoming from Synaptic Simulations A319 - Fenix A320 - Fenix, FBW, iniBuilds A321 - Fenix, FSLabs, iniBuilds A330 - iniBuilds A340 - upcoming from Aerosoft/Toliss, upcoming from iniBuilds A350 - iniBuilds A380 - FBW, upcoming from iniBuilds Boeing: 737 - PMDG, iFly 747 - upcoming from PMDG 757 - upcoming from Bluebird Simulations 767- upcoming from Bluebird Simulations 777 - PMDG 787- upcoming from Bluebird Simulations, Working Title & Horizon Simulations(?) The only one that may be debatable for "decent fidelity" is the 787, since that is mostly based on Working Title's work. If you think the Horizon Simulations mod of the Working Title 787 is of "decent fidelity," then the 787 is included in that list. If you don't think it is, then the Bluebird Simulations 787 will probably be at least iniBuilds fidelity or above, but it's probably more than 2 years off. And if you look at the Airbus & Boeing list above, there isn't much up for grabs anymore, except specific variants. The only one that is up for grabs, if you think Working Title & Horizon Simulations is not "decent fidelity," is the 787. This means there is time for another competitor to tackle the 787, if Bluebird Simulations is at least 2 years away from the 787. At Bluebird Simulation's pace of development and because the 767 is their next priority after the 757, it could even be 4 years until they realistically release the 787, so this gives ample time for another competitor to do a high fidelity 787 before Bluebird does. Anyways, I think we have come a long way since MSFS 2020 was released 5 years ago. I never imagined the day for MSFS where we would have a decent fidelity version of every Boeing and Airbus modern airliner, but we are approaching that day soon! Edited July 10, 2025Jul 10 by abrams_tank i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
July 10, 2025Jul 10 I just want the A220. It should have been a default MSFS 2020 plane by MS/Asobo. Asus Maximus X Hero Z370/ Windows 10 MSI Gaming X 1080Ti (2100 mhz OC Watercooled) 8700k (4.7ghz OC Watercooled) 32GB DDR4 3000 Ram 500GB SAMSUNG 860 EVO SERIES SSD M.2
July 10, 2025Jul 10 737-200 for me! Not heard anything about the Blackbird one for ages. Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind). I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio. Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's. Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.
July 10, 2025Jul 10 It's becoming very hard to keep track of all the great aircraft already released or upcoming 😅 (and hard to keep the wallet from getting drained hehe). Good list Abrams, am wondering if there are any lists maintained by others out there (I remember a few lists maintained by some on the official forums). Rather than a complete list, would be good to just have those aircraft of medium or higher fidelity and with generally good or better reviews. Apart from the Airbuses and Boeings you list, there are some other good airliners or heavier aircraft, and also loads of great GA releases and announcements of what looks to be great birds. And then there are the gliders and helis. Len 1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD
July 10, 2025Jul 10 Author 16 minutes ago, lwt1971 said: It's becoming very hard to keep track of all the great aircraft already released or upcoming 😅 (and hard to keep the wallet from getting drained hehe). If not for the delay on the release of the FlightFX C750, we would have had the FSLabs A321 Neo, Black Square Starship, A2A Aerostar, and FlightFX C750 released within a span of a few weeks! That is very heavy on the wallet, if you buy all 4 of them 😁 16 minutes ago, lwt1971 said: Good list Abrams, am wondering if there are any lists maintained by others out there (I remember a few lists maintained by some on the official forums). Rather than a complete list, would be good to just have those aircraft of medium or higher fidelity and with generally good or better reviews. Apart from the Airbuses and Boeings you list, there are some other good airliners or heavier aircraft, and also loads of great GA releases and announcements of what looks to be great birds. And then there are the gliders and helis. Yup, there are so many 3rd party add-ons being release for MSFS, it is definitely hard to keep track of them all. A lot of great GA releases, as well as gliders and helicopters coming to MSFS as well! i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
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July 10, 2025Jul 10 A 717 done by PMDG would be a welcome surprise. TFDi seems to have their hands full with the MD-11 and I can't see them moving on from it at all.
July 10, 2025Jul 10 2 hours ago, abrams_tank said: With the announcement by Aerosoft/Toliss Careful, you will set them off again.
July 10, 2025Jul 10 Include A300-600 and A310 (both by iniBuilds) and the 727 by FSS. And from the McDonnell-Douglas side, this is what we have: DC-9, (Sky Simulations...is it good enough for this list)? DC-10, upcoming from Aerodynamics; KC-10 included MD-11, available from TFDi MD-80, available Leonardo SH 2 hours ago, bobcat999 said: 737-200 for me! Not heard anything about the Blackbird one for ages. For the 737, I think we may need to count it 4 times. Also, the A300 and the 747 may need to be counted twice each: A300-B4, upcoming from Just Flight A300-600, available from iniBuilds 747-200 (the classics), upcoming from PMDG 747-400 (the modern ones), upcoming from PMDG 737 ancient (-100/-200)… nobody has done one yet 737 classics, available from CSS 737 NG, available from PMDG 737 MAX, available from iFly 16 minutes ago, ATRguy said: A 717 done by PMDG would be a welcome surprise. TFDi seems to have their hands full with the MD-11 and I can't see them moving on from it at all. I think TFDi will tackle the 717 first, as soon they finish P3D development of their MD-11. They have a head start with their FSX/P3D version. PMDG looks to be hands full with both of their 747s. Edited July 10, 2025Jul 10 by Luis Hernandez Best regards,Luis Hernández Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.
July 10, 2025Jul 10 Author 7 minutes ago, Luis Hernandez said: Include A300 and A310 (both by iniBuilds) and the 727 by FSS. And from the McDonnell-Douglas side, this is what we have: DC-9 (Sky Simulations...is it good enough)? DC-10 upcoming from Aerodynamics; KC-10 included MD-11 TFDi MD-80 Leonardo SH And I think TFDi will tackle the 717 first, as soon they finish P3D development of their MD-11. I think they have a head start. PMDG looks to be hands full with both of their 747s. I guess those would count as classic airliners? Even for classic airliners, there are some decent fidelity to high fidelity versions of them that have been done for MSFS. I can definitely see more 3rd party developers starting some projects for classic airliners, once all the modern airliners have all been done for MSFS at a decent to high level of fidelity. i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
July 10, 2025Jul 10 I consider an A300-600 to be a "modern airliner". Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
July 10, 2025Jul 10 5 minutes ago, abrams_tank said: I guess those would count as classic airliners? My bad, I didn't read the full title. But yes, I'd count some of them (732, 742 A300-B4, DC-9 and DC-10) as such. I understand some others would also rate the 744, the A300-600 and the MD-11 as classics. Best regards,Luis Hernández Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.
July 10, 2025Jul 10 A300B4 https://www.justflight.com/in-development/a300-b4-professional 9950X3D - X870E Aorus Master- TUF 5090 OC - 64GB DDR5 - 1500W HXi - Titan 360 RX LCD - 9100 Pro x 2 - LG 45GX950A - HOTAS Warthog with Ava Base
July 10, 2025Jul 10 Can we get a good supersonic passenger Jet (Concorde) perhaps? We have enough A32's and 73's already. Edited July 10, 2025Jul 10 by JBDB-MD80
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