4 hours ago, G-YMML1 said:

I'm on a fence for now, but feel a bit tense 🙂

Finding the FSL quite nice and enjoyable. Fenix is already +2 months since their BFU for the CEO was supposed to be out and zero signs it’s coming anytime soon. At this rate I have zero confidence they will release the NEO this year as they originally posted. For lead dev to say BFU is coming in a couple weeks and then announce a vaguely worded delay and now we are months since that, something went catastrophically wrong regardless of the word-smithing they are doing to play it down. If you want to fly a NEO in 2025, FSL is it.

Edited July 16, 2025Jul 16 by B777ER

1 hour ago, B777ER said:

Finding the FSL quite nice and enjoyable. Fenix is already +2 months since their BFU for the CEO was supposed to be out and zero signs it’s coming anytime soon. At this rate I have zero confidence they will release the NEO this year as they originally posted. For lead dev to say BFU is coming in a couple weeks and then announce a vaguely worded delay and now we are months since that, something went catastrophically wrong regardless of the word-smithing they are doing to play it down. If you want to fly a NEO in 2025, FSL is it.

Does it have 4x acceleration as FENIX does? I’d like to try some JBU/SAS/EIn transatlantic routes 

4 hours ago, G-YMML1 said:

Does it have 4x acceleration as FENIX does? I’d like to try some JBU/SAS/EIn transatlantic routes 

No idea. I read somewhere it has a “jump ahead” feature but unclear if it supports 4x.
I wish there was a comprehensive table somewhere that listed sim rate compatibility for addons as I don’t have the time to do real time flights and sim rate support is a big factor for me.
Like “Fenix - native - up to 4x”, “PMDG - native - up to 32x”, “Plane XYZ - default sim rate only - up to 4x but fuel burn doesn’t adjust” or something like that.

5 minutes ago, Speedbird 217 said:

No idea. I read somewhere it has a “jump ahead” feature but unclear if it supports 4x.

The jump ahead doesn't use time acceleration. If it's the same as in their p3d bird the sim teleports you to the selected way point instantly and 'refreshes' session/reloads plane the same as if you'd loaded a save file. 

It's a tiny bit glitchy in p3d so I don't use it but nothing game breaking (TOD marker disappears from pfd and green normal fuel transfer msg turns to amber warning you can't get rid of IF your fuel is at a level it should be if you've blocked the plane correctly). 

Depends on how patient you are. You need to set expectation realistically. With the already months of ongoing delay in releasing the current CEO update, i would not expect the NEO anytime this year. If you good with that, wait. If not, buy the Fslabs. 

Edited July 16, 2025Jul 16 by roi1862

26 minutes ago, sloppysmusic said:

The jump ahead doesn't use time acceleration. If it's the same as in their p3d bird the sim teleports you to the selected way point instantly and 'refreshes' session/reloads plane the same as if you'd loaded a save file. 

It's a tiny bit glitchy in p3d so I don't use it but nothing game breaking (TOD marker disappears from pfd and green normal fuel transfer msg turns to amber warning you can't get rid of IF your fuel is at a level it should be if you've blocked the plane correctly). 

Jump ahead doesn’t just teleport, it also adjusts for fuel burn and time of day. I find it a better option to time acceleration as practically its equivalent to accelerating time by some super high factor (it takes a couple of seconds to stabilize).

The labs bus doesn’t have time acceleration from the panel but you can assign a keyboard command. It’s very stable at x2, fairly stable at x4 but I would not go beyond that.

I've got the Fenix and the FSLabs.

Both are good.

If I can I will keep purchasing offers from both, ah!, and using FBW's excellent freebies too which are top !!!

I really can't say I prefer either the Fenix or the FSLabs over the other.

24 minutes ago, ha5mvo said:

Jump ahead doesn’t just teleport, it also adjusts for fuel burn and time of day. I find it a better option to time acceleration as practically its equivalent to accelerating time by some super high factor (it takes a couple of seconds to stabilize).

The labs bus doesn’t have time acceleration from the panel but you can assign a keyboard command. It’s very stable at x2, fairly stable at x4 but I would not go beyond that.

Thanks for clarifying that. So you mean you need to use the default MSFS sim rate command, unlike the Fenix or PMDG which have it built into the FMC/MCDU or EFB? Does it correctly adjust fuel burn when using 2x or 4x?

32 minutes ago, Speedbird 217 said:

Thanks for clarifying that. So you mean you need to use the default MSFS sim rate command, unlike the Fenix or PMDG which have it built into the FMC/MCDU or EFB? Does it correctly adjust fuel burn when using 2x or 4x?

I can only see the jump ahead function in the MCDU.

 

"The “Jump Ahead” feature essentially allows you to skip parts of your flight by selecting an upcoming waypoint along your planned route and having the aircraft jump instantly to that selected waypoint. Fuel on board, altitude, speed, expected crossing time and elapsed time will automatically be adjusted to the amounts and values at the selected waypoint you would have had if you had flown the route in real time.

You can also adjust any of those values before making the jump. For example, if you want to skip ahead to the landing but would like to make the aircraft heavier to experience a maximum weight landing, simply adjust the remaining fuel on board to the desired amount and then execute the jump."

12 hours ago, G-YMML1 said:

I'm on a fence for now, but feel a bit tense 🙂

I have the FSL CEO and NEO and they are my go to aircraft at the moment in MSFS2024. I do have the Fenix A320 too but haven't flown it for a few months. I'll try and give some points as to why I like the FSL

1) The Tech Log system, where you will get an imperfect aircraft. The other day I had one with an INOP APU so I had to read up in the included manuals what additional procedures I had to follow, and then also the manuals gave clear instructions on how in the sim GSX would automatically detect this when I requested pushback and introduce an ASU. It also provided instructions on the cross bleed start to engine 1 from there. For me this was excellent additional immersion

2) Overall, the way it interacts with GSX is very seamless, and you request loading and fuel from the AOC system and then GSX does its thing. If you fly an airline where there is a provided 'Airline Pack' then you will get cabin sounds and voices etc for that airline and also be assigned an arrival gate (you can change it if you want) that would normally be for that airline at your destination. Again, on arrival GSX will be waiting at that gate

3)On the NEO FSL seem to have provided a customised Simbrief profile for each of the liveries they have provided. A really nice touch in my opinion.

4)There are many little extras that really in my opinion make it seem like a quality product such as having the EFB or the FMS in a web browser or being able to print AOC messages to either a printer or via Pushover. (I know Fenix does these too).

5)I've also found support to be really responsive either via email or their forums.

6) Of course with the NEO you can use something like TAP airlines to do a combination of European flights or over the pond to the US East coast. I believe the PW engines will be coming out soon which will give a lot more US carrier options in the NEO

If you have any other specific questions then let me know, but if I had to pick my main reasons for the liking the FSL is the tech log system with accompanied with really good manuals to support it.

Hope this helps!

I might buy the FSL NEO as well I thought BFU was coming soon but I guess not. 

Does it have LR version included? I cannot find it was mentioned on FSL product page?

I am getting tempted. The DRAIMS console on Vatsim would be nice. I also figure that because of how life works, the day I get the FSL Fenix will drop the BFU.

Like others, I don't have a lot of faith Fenix will release their Neo this year. With the BFU, they are now roughly 4 months past the announcement. The delay for the BFU is either just over, or close to the delay they had with B2.

10 minutes ago, G-YMML1 said:

Does it have LR version included? I cannot find it was mentioned on FSL product page?

There is no LR variant, you can configure a livery to have 1, 2, or 3 auxiliary centre tanks.

I've no idea if tanks are the only difference on the real LR.

7 minutes ago, BrammyH said:

I am getting tempted. The DRAIMS console on Vatsim would be nice. I also figure that because of how life works, the day I get the FSL Fenix will drop the BFU.

Like others, I don't have a lot of faith Fenix will release their Neo this year. With the BFU, they are now roughly 4 months past the announcement. The delay for the BFU is either just over, or close to the delay they had with B2.

A nice touch wth the FSL A321 ceo and neo is that there are few bugs to complain about after release. An update released after a week or two fixes most most of the minor issues.