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FSLabs NEO or wait for FENIX? (MSFS2020)

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5 minutes ago, flyingscampi said:

A nice touch wth the FSL A321 ceo and neo is that there are few bugs to complain about after release. An update released after a week or two fixes most most of the minor issues.

...and their CEO is pretty much the same class as NEO or it's less complex? 

PS. I had been enjoying FSL in P3D for years. The best ever made jetliner in history of flightsimming on par with LevelD-767. 

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  • I have the FSL CEO and NEO and they are my go to aircraft at the moment in MSFS2024. I do have the Fenix A320 too but haven't flown it for a few months. I'll try and give some points as to why I like

  • I've owned fenix since release. Have hundreds of hours on it. I purchased the FSLabs CEO when released for 2020 and now the Neo. Guess whick airbuses I no longer fly? Yes the Fenix. The FSLABs has a m

  • I couldn't wait any longer and got the FSLAbs NEO. Not a single regret, very good quality addon.

30 minutes ago, G-YMML1 said:

Does it have LR version included? I cannot find it was mentioned on FSL product page?

It took me a while to work this out too. The liveries they supply have either 0,1,2, or 3 extra tanks marked against them in the FSL manager software, and I think it is the 3 tank version that is the LR. For example all the BA ones are labeled 'Verified Config' with zero extra tanks and the TAP Portugal ones have 3 extra tanks.

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Just now, jamesb said:

It took me a while to work this out too. The liveries they supply have either 0,1,2, or 3 extra tanks marked against them in the FSL manager software, and I think it is the 3 tank version that is the LR. For example all the BA ones are labeled 'Verified Config' with zero extra tanks and the TAP Portugal ones have 3 extra tanks.

Yes, the only difference between basic NEO and LR is an additional fuel tank. XLR is totally different story as despite having 2 tanks, they all have different capacity. 

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One thing I would say is that the sounds and modelling are good, but for example if I compare to the iFly 738 Max, they are not as good, and I don't get as good performance in the FSL as I do in the iFly either.

I have a RTX3080 with 10gb VRAM, and i712700 CPU with 32gb ram

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Just now, jamesb said:

One thing I would say is that the sounds and modelling are good, but for example if I compare to the iFly 738 Max, they are not as good, and I don't get as good performance in the FSL as I do in the iFly either.

Thanks. 

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24 minutes ago, G-YMML1 said:

...and their CEO is pretty much the same class as NEO or it's less complex? 

PS. I had been enjoying FSL in P3D for years. The best ever made jetliner in history of flightsimming on par with LevelD-767. 

The ceo/neo are based on the same model you'd be used to from P3D.

The LevelD 767 was the first airliner I bought for FS9 and I loved it too 🙂

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Supposedly the FSLabs A321neo has a better flight model than the Fenix based on some of the comments I've seen.

I own the Fenix, but I might pick up the FSLabs soon.

 

Edit: having said that, I just watched V1's streams and he had more issues with the FSL than other streamers/reviewers.

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2 hours ago, jamesb said:

One thing I would say is that the sounds and modelling are good, but for example if I compare to the iFly 738 Max, they are not as good, and I don't get as good performance in the FSL as I do in the iFly either.

I have a RTX3080 with 10gb VRAM, and i712700 CPU with 32gb ram

Forgot to ask, 2020 or 2024?

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FSL have a performance improvement update in beta testing.

Eric 

 

 

Personally, I'm willing to wait out Fenix because I honestly don't fly airbus a whole lot in general so I am not in any rush. Also, I think the modernized ceo gift variant for getting both the neo and ceo variants is a nice gesture and would be fun to fly around in it a bit.

7 hours ago, flyingscampi said:

"The “Jump Ahead” feature essentially allows you to skip parts of your flight by selecting an upcoming waypoint along your planned route and having the aircraft jump instantly to that selected waypoint. Fuel on board, altitude, speed, expected crossing time and elapsed time will automatically be adjusted to the amounts and values at the selected waypoint you would have had if you had flown the route in real time.

The only issue you may have is with your ATC (either BATC, FSHud or default). I know FSHud doesn't allow you to request a direct to a waypoint far far away; so you'll need to cancel flightplan and file it again after jumping ahead. But this is exactly the same issue you'd have when using QuantumLeap for this purpose.

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I simply kill either BATC or SI on a long hauls, when I’m  switching to either x4 or x8. Both programs will pick me up exactly where and when I switch back to x1.  Cannot comment on FSHUD, I haven’t touched it since last year 

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I also heard that FSL has the best CDPLC integration with SayIntention. 

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1 minute ago, G-YMML1 said:

I also heard that FSL has the best CDPLC integration with SayIntention. 

As an aside, there is a reported issue with SI and FSL where TCAS crashes the sim. According to SI, FSL confirmed it's a problem with FSL.

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