2 hours ago, sultanofswing said:

What makes you assume that I only fly MSFS? 
I also fly XP12 and fly Toliss quite often, i'd love to see your opinion of Toliss Cockpit visuals.

I feel like the point went over your head entirely. By pointing out poor visuals people aren’t neglecting good systems, they’re simply pointing out… poor visuals.
 

We have more than enough examples from other payware devs, that it doesn’t have to be an either or situation, so why shouldn’t we want that out of FSL as well as toliss?

34 minutes ago, Lucky38i said:

I feel like the point went over your head entirely. By pointing out poor visuals people aren’t neglecting good systems, they’re simply pointing out… poor visuals.
 

We have more than enough examples from other payware devs, that it doesn’t have to be an either or situation, so why shouldn’t we want that out of FSL as well as toliss?

Can you show a couple of screenshots comparing what's good in one and what's not?

1 hour ago, Lucky38i said:

I feel like the point went over your head entirely. By pointing out poor visuals people aren’t neglecting good systems, they’re simply pointing out… poor visuals.
 

We have more than enough examples from other payware devs, that it doesn’t have to be an either or situation, so why shouldn’t we want that out of FSL as well as toliss?

Nothing went over my head, perhaps you missed the post earlier where someone completely won't use the FSLabs due to the visual.

Anyway enough of the arguing about visual and system, run whatever you wanna run it doesn't hurt my feelings at all.

Edited July 21, 2025Jul 21 by sultanofswing

11 minutes ago, sultanofswing said:

Nothing went over my head, perhaps you missed the post earlier where someone completely won't use the Fenix due to the visual.

Anyway enough of the arguing about visual and system, run whatever you wanna run it doesn't hurt my feelings at all.

Actually they won't use FSLabs because of the visuals 

 

Edited July 21, 2025Jul 21 by carlanthony24

15 minutes ago, carlanthony24 said:

Actually they won't use FSLabs because of the visuals 

 

Sorry That is what I meant.

12 hours ago, G-YMML1 said:

Back to hangar. 

Yes, it's P3D FSLbus, nothing more, nothing less. Ugly visuals kill all the immersion. Back to FENIX. 

https://imgur.com/gallery/prepar3d-v5-fslabs-active-sky-asca-a320-orbx-trueearth-egnx-zCBLIX5

This is the OLD bus. Flown today. Is this so bad even in msfs that you can't bear flying it? Not the neo. The OLD bus... 

 

The cockpit textures are definitely better compared to P3D. Where generally most used the hb texture pack.

people don't like graphics on MaddogX and FSLabs...two of the more complex and immersive addons. I am not going to say their graphics are amazing because they are not, but they are darn good simulations.

But everyone is free to like whatever they like.

On 7/20/2025 at 9:29 AM, flyingscampi said:

I use FSUIPC console to identify the rotor brake codes when operating the switches, then bind them to controller buttons. The codes can also be found in the 'FSLA32X_Interior.xml‘ file located in the aircraft folder (for example):

D:\MSFS\FlightSimLabs2024\fsl-common\FSLabs\EFB\FileSystem\SimObjects\Airplanes\FSLabs A321-NEO LEAP\Model

Look for a heading like 'VC_GSLD_CP_EFIS_Baro_Knob'...

Rotor brake codes aren't needed anymore they have a spreadsheet which is with a lot of events in it... Used it for the Winwing stuff to make the profiles for the EFIS L/R and FCU when I was on the beta.
Also in combination with mobiflight and the MCDU compatibility. SimAppPro will do it also native now, but I prefer mobiflight less overhead for simconnect events.

The spreadsheet can be downloaded at the FSL forum 🙂

 

Edited July 21, 2025Jul 21 by virtualstuff

Why does he (FSLabs) lower his nose so quickly after touching? Is there any way to fix this?

I like especially the 321 Neo for FS Labs. In fact I've been flying more than Fenix which I get a consistent AP disengage on.

One thing I do not like is the GSX integration with the FMS on FS Labs. A few of the options will pop up on the EFB but that won't cut it. Please give the option to default on the drop down menu in sim.

On 7/18/2025 at 11:49 AM, ianb2469 said:

Thank you.  
 

I’m swaying closer and closer now.  I particularly like the suggestion that the flight model is better (landing the Fenix is a pain even in calm weather!) 

That's what I heard from some people, but watching V1 and Blackbox's streams, it doesn't seem to me like that is the case.

9 minutes ago, RNAVV19R said:

Blackbox's streams

 I've only caught bits of BB's streams, but he seems to be flying it a bit. What has he said about it?

1 minute ago, BrammyH said:

 I've only caught bits of BB's streams, but he seems to be flying it a bit. What has he said about it?

He didn't like the pitch. He said it wasn't very realistic on approach. This was on his latest stream:

 

Edited July 21, 2025Jul 21 by RNAVV19R

He's not using the new experimental so I don't know if that fixes things.

Also, at the risk of igniting the "but the graphics" wars, are the graphics the same, or better than the INI a21n? As long as the cockpit isn't worse than that, I can deal.