https://pmdg.com/msfs-2020-2024/
 

$50 USD for the 77L. And all of the pics are of the 772er on the product page 😂

10 hours ago, Bruno Duarte said:

Hi all,

Does it still behave oddly in windy conditions?

Thanks.

Bruno.

Yes, but that seems a MSFS problem with Turbulense settings, you should only use "low" for the other options something goes wrong..

cheers 😉

I am slightly surprised that the LR is priced at $50. I was expecting it be similar to the 737-600.

I don't know why they can't fix the wind situation? I can only land it without wind. Such a big plane shouldn't feel the wind like a feather.

IMO the 777s are decent.  Not too tier, but also not trash.

I’ll put it this way: in our relatively short summers, I spend as much time as I can outside, so only end up doing a flight weekly, if that.  As a result, I tend to focus on my current favourites, and the 777s don’t fit that bill.  However when our weather turns crappy in the late fall and I’m simming a lot more, the 777s will get back into a regular rotation.

I never thought the sounds were that bad until I got the iFly 737 MAX-8. That one has ruined the sounds for me for every other aircraft!

I haven't found any issue with the FBW modelling though - I've always thought it's quite a nice plane to hand fly? Certainly a lot easier to land than the 737 which I always manage to mess up.

4 hours ago, pmplayer said:

Yes, but that seems a MSFS problem with Turbulense settings, you should only use "low" for the other options something goes wrong..

cheers 😉

Asobo's problem is that they should have implemented a turbulence slider instead of a few fixed settings. That would give the customer a fine-tuned option. 

Now, PMDG's problem is that they don't utilize the CFD entries to properly adjust the model's reaction to wind changes, combined with faulty FBW logic, which results in the product exhibiting unrealistic behavior. 

1 hour ago, Christopher Low said:

I am slightly surprised that the LR is priced at $50. I was expecting it be similar to the 737-600.

Are you? RSR is as money grabbing as they come with the individual pricing practices, zero discounts, zero sales. And the same 3 products over and over but “updated”. 🙄🙄

2 hours ago, romaf12008 said:

I don't know why they can't fix the wind situation? I can only land it without wind. Such a big plane shouldn't feel the wind like a feather.

Just a few minutes ago I landed the 77F on KJFK 04R which currently has a left crosswind of 15-18 knots and had no problems. I would have preferred 31R, but per the current JFK digital ATIS, the 31 runways are closed for landings at the moment.

I have a good yoke and rudder pedals and had to use both continuously to maintain the center line on approach, touchdown and roll out which is realistic. “Big planes” certainly can and do “feel the wind”. There are plenty of YouTube videos of large, heavy aircraft (777, 747, A380 etc) approaching in strong gusty wind conditions and literally being “tossed around like feathers”.

I have MSFS turbulence set to “low” because the way they implement low level turbulence when set to “realistic” is anything but realistic. That is a MSFS problem not an aircraft problem.

11 hours ago, B777ER said:

Save your money. FBW is borked, sounds are trash and innovation and the EFB are two things that shall never meet.

What (specifically) does the EFB need (that it doesn’t already have) to be “innovative”? I find it easy to use for its intended purpose, with a clean UI and all the necessary functions for setting aircraft state, loading flight plans and doing performance calculations. I presume the Navigraph charts function works well, but I prefer to use the Navigraph app on an iPad rather than in an EFB emulation.

I also fly the IFly Max a lot, and it’s a great aircraft, but the EFB is horrid and difficult to use compared to PMDG’s even though it (apparently) emulates an actual Boeing EFB.

I'm glad the LR is finally out so they can put more time into the 737 for 2024. I'm going to pass on the LR for the fact no US airline flies them since Delta retired them. I remember back in P3D we were flying the LR forever in fictional liveries until they finally released the ER. That only lasted for a short period as MSFS2020 was announced. 

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47 minutes ago, JRBarrett said:

Just a few minutes ago I landed the 77F on KJFK 04R which currently has a left crosswind of 15-18 knots and had no problems. I would have preferred 31R, but per the current JFK digital ATIS, the 31 runways are closed for landings at the moment.

I have a good yoke and rudder pedals and had to use both continuously to maintain the center line on approach, touchdown and roll out which is realistic. “Big planes” certainly can and do “feel the wind”. There are plenty of YouTube videos of large, heavy aircraft (777, 747, A380 etc) approaching in strong gusty wind conditions and literally being “tossed around like feathers”.

I have MSFS turbulence set to “low” because the way they implement low level turbulence when set to “realistic” is anything but realistic. That is a MSFS problem not an aircraft problem.

Same .. I don't have a wind problem either. But just like you  i am using a yoke and rudder pedals.  Oh well .. apart from the sounds needing a revamp i am happy with the product. I am sure other components like the trim while hand flying could be revised but for me its not a showstopper. I can get by for the very limited time i am hand-flying it without putting it into the ground.

3 hours ago, B777ER said:

Are you? RSR is as money grabbing as they come with the individual pricing practices, zero discounts, zero sales. And the same 3 products over and over but “updated”. 🙄🙄

Yes, but PMDG would not have released the 737-600 at $35 if they thought like that all the time.

Nevertheless, I am more than puzzled at the $50 asking price. There were even fewer 777-200LRs sold than 737-600s, so that price point does not make a lot of sense, particularly as PMDG stated early on that there would probably be an "entry level" option in the 777 series (matching the 737 series), and that would certainly have been the 200LR. I was initially going to wait for the LR precisely because I expected it to be released at a significantly lower price than the others, but at only $5 cheaper than the F......well, I am not sure what to make of that one......unless I accept your own theory that RSR and PMDG are "money grabbers" 

There were only 61, 777-200LR produced. Of those, 18 are retired. Delta (retired LRs) and Emerates were the largest operator of them. 

22 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

Yes, but PMDG would not have released the 737-600 at $35 if they thought like that all the time.

Nevertheless, I am more than puzzled at the $50 asking price. There were even fewer 777-200LRs sold than 737-600s, so that price point does not make a lot of sense, particularly as PMDG stated early on that there would probably be an "entry level" option in the 777 series (matching the 737 series), and that would certainly have been the 200LR. I was initially going to wait for the LR precisely because I expected it to be released at a significantly lower price than the others, but at only $5 cheaper than the F......well, I am not sure what to make of that one......unless I accept your own theory that RSR and PMDG are "money grabbers" 

$50 seems steep if people already own one of the others.  But lower seems like giving it away for nothing if people don't have it.    For all the critics, there are very few airplanes released that are more mature and complete than theirs.  I can't even take the wife out for an average dinner for $50.  But that's my opinion.