August 11, 2025Aug 11 I've been wondering for a long time why all the add-ons we use can't be synchronized with a single and unique AIRAC database. With FS2024 and its excellent flight planner, I think the time has come to have a single, monthly-updated database that all the payware add-ons we regularly use could rely on. This would have enormous advantages: 1) synchronization would be automatic for all addons with each release cycle 2) a single database format would be used by all addons developers 3) We already have the LIDO charts we can use in the excellent FS2024 flightplanner 4) It would be free Do you think we could achieve this in a near future? At the very least, we could let the user decide whether to use Navigraph or the FS2024 database, which I believe this one is the optimal choice. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. Riccardo OS: Windows 10-64 bit, CPU: i7-7700K @4.20 GHz, GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 G1 8GB GDDR5, RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR4 32GB 3000MHz, MB: MSI Z270
August 11, 2025Aug 11 19 minutes ago, riccardo74 said: FS2024 database FS24 and in kind FS20 doesn’t have a queryable database like navigraph it has an API through simconnect or through the avionics framework written by the working title team. Unfortunately this means building out a new layer to parse all of this which is quite a bit of development work from devs end. what you’re proposing is more than possible but requires quite a bit from developer’s to implement and even so, there’s some lacking granularity in the navdata API compared to querying the navigraph-supplied DBs that some other devs can comment on. From memory (i think dont quote me) one example is MSFS not properly encoding GBAAS approaches
August 11, 2025Aug 11 You all can do what you want .. As long as i can use simbrief and navigraph. The built in planner is not for me. Sorry for sounding selfish.. AMD Ryzen 9800X3D/ Asus ROG Strix B650E F Gaming WiFi / Asrock Taichi 9070XT / 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 6000 / 2x ADATA XPG 8200 Pro NVME / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 / Seasonic Vertex 1000w PSU / Lian Li LanCool II Mesh Performance / Asus VG34VQL3A / Topping E70 Velvet DAC & L70 Amp /Sennheiser HD660s2 Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke + TCA Sidestick + TFRP Rudders
August 11, 2025Aug 11 Er... we already have this in FS2024...? The only problem is that some addon developers keep on supporting Navigraph only. But other than that we already got what you want... Or am I missing something here?
August 11, 2025Aug 11 Author 13 minutes ago, mistolip said: Er... we already have this in FS2024...? The only problem is that some addon developers keep on supporting Navigraph only. But other than that we already got what you want... Or am I missing something here? No, you are right. That's why I asked your opinion. You could keep both databases and let the user choose. Riccardo OS: Windows 10-64 bit, CPU: i7-7700K @4.20 GHz, GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 G1 8GB GDDR5, RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR4 32GB 3000MHz, MB: MSI Z270
August 11, 2025Aug 11 Navigraph is a really good solution as it's very cheap for you get. I think you can still buy data only for extremely cheap. Otherwise with charts/data it's like 9 EUR/month or something. That's about the same cost as a meal for yourself. Otherwise, 2024 uses LIDO which covers a lot of common airports that an airliner would fly into, for free. I'm actually amazed Microsoft has pulled this off. If you fly GA outside of the USA there will be missing charts/data. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
August 11, 2025Aug 11 Funny i just bought a year sub for Navigraph last night. It's integration into MSFS is awesome! Still undecided on a better than vanilla ATC solution though. Asus Maximus X Hero Z370/ Windows 10 MSI Gaming X 1080Ti (2100 mhz OC Watercooled) 8700k (4.7ghz OC Watercooled) 32GB DDR4 3000 Ram 500GB SAMSUNG 860 EVO SERIES SSD M.2
August 11, 2025Aug 11 Author 1 hour ago, ryanbatc said: Navigraph is a really good solution as it's very cheap for you get. I think you can still buy data only for extremely cheap. Otherwise with charts/data it's like 9 EUR/month or something. That's about the same cost as a meal for yourself. Otherwise, 2024 uses LIDO which covers a lot of common airports that an airliner would fly into, for free. I'm actually amazed Microsoft has pulled this off. If you fly GA outside of the USA there will be missing charts/data. I can only buy for 11€/month or about 96€/year. It's not so cheap... Where can I buy airac data only? I'd use LIDO charts on MSFS2024. Riccardo OS: Windows 10-64 bit, CPU: i7-7700K @4.20 GHz, GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 G1 8GB GDDR5, RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR4 32GB 3000MHz, MB: MSI Z270
August 12, 2025Aug 12 Navigraph: they offer a Navdata-only subscription for around $30 a year. There's no monthly subscription available for that option. That's what I have. Best regards,Luis Hernández Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.
August 12, 2025Aug 12 I've been using Navigraph since 2006 (when you purchased charts). No more hunting the internet for airport charts that were 10 years out of date, just use nDAC. The integration of Navigraph's navdata, charts, and SimBrief with aircraft navigation systems can't be topped, and is worth every penny (if you can afford it.) FS2024 • PMDG 738, 77F • FSL A321 • A2A Comanche, Aerostar • BS Baron, Bonanza, Caravan Pro • JF Tomahawk • TAOG H500C BeyondATC • GSX Pro • ChasePlane & Flow Pro • TDS GTNXi • FSUIPC • AutoFPS • RealTurb 9800X3D B650E • ROG OC RTX 5090 • 64GB DDR5-6000 • VKB Gladiator, STECS, T-Rudder • Tobii 5 • ISP 1 Gbps
August 12, 2025Aug 12 6 minutes ago, flyingscampi said: I've been using Navigraph since 2006 (when you purchased charts). No more hunting the internet for airport charts that were 10 years out of date, just use nDAC. The integration of Navigraph's navdata, charts, and SimBrief with aircraft navigation systems can't be topped, and is worth every penny (if you can afford it.) Same with Richard Stefan his stuff at the time it was freeware if I remember correctly? André
August 12, 2025Aug 12 49 minutes ago, virtualstuff said: Same with Richard Stefan his stuff at the time it was freeware if I remember correctly? Hard to believe its nearly 20 years ago. At the time I'd bought the Level-D 767 (my first airliner) for FS9, and Radar Contact, and was wondering why procedures in the FMC were different to the charts I'd found. Richard Stefan's AIRAC data really helped! FS2024 • PMDG 738, 77F • FSL A321 • A2A Comanche, Aerostar • BS Baron, Bonanza, Caravan Pro • JF Tomahawk • TAOG H500C BeyondATC • GSX Pro • ChasePlane & Flow Pro • TDS GTNXi • FSUIPC • AutoFPS • RealTurb 9800X3D B650E • ROG OC RTX 5090 • 64GB DDR5-6000 • VKB Gladiator, STECS, T-Rudder • Tobii 5 • ISP 1 Gbps
August 12, 2025Aug 12 Author 9 hours ago, Luis Hernandez said: Navigraph: they offer a Navdata-only subscription for around $30 a year. There's no monthly subscription available for that option. That's what I have. Can you share the link? I can't find this option, only monthly ir year subscription. Riccardo OS: Windows 10-64 bit, CPU: i7-7700K @4.20 GHz, GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 G1 8GB GDDR5, RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR4 32GB 3000MHz, MB: MSI Z270
August 12, 2025Aug 12 15 hours ago, riccardo74 said: I can only buy for 11€/month or about 96€/year. It's not so cheap... Not cheap? It’s incredible when you see what the subscription includes.. CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
August 12, 2025Aug 12 3 hours ago, riccardo74 said: Can you share the link? I can't find this option, only monthly ir year subscription. Go to their website and sign up for an account. Go into your account and it will tell you that you have no active subscription with the monthly and yearly option. Below that in blue text you should see: "Get a Navigation Data subscription" This is the only way to access it.
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