Crash of the Century - Tenerife

[midcon385 1]

Can anyone please provide me a link to the documentary "Crash of the Century - Tenerife", that is over an hour and has the recreations of this event? Or can someone send it to me? I hate to ask, but I've not found it available yet where I can get it besides Veoh.com, and that Veoh Player caused major problems with my computer. Please help...Tim

[craig_read 43]

There are actually two of these.. on is more "theatrical" than the other and I didn't personally.. rate that one much..This I believe is part of the better one.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p82Oru49-5Mhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r_5lQsL9O4...related&search=This is the more theatrical version..http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...earch&plindex=9http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-poRLXRaRSwI think that might help you..CheersCraig

[G7USL 117]

WOW!

[Guest panda234]

That crash is used now in teaching pilots Multi Crew Cooperation. Apparently the KLM copilot knew that they didn't have clearance for takeoff but was afraid to confront the Captain, who was the senior pilot at KLM. The incident is used to show the importance of the copilot speaking up when he thinks something is wrong and to assert himself.

[Guest PARADISE]

Copilots can kick and scream all they want, what is really important is that the captains listen (not just hear the copilot) and, at the very least, take the copilot's concerns seriously enough to make a rational decision regarding the operation of the aircraft.John M

[Guest Adrian Wainer]

>That crash is used now in teaching pilots Multi Crew>Cooperation. Apparently the KLM copilot knew that they didn't>have clearance for takeoff but was afraid to confront the>Captain, who was the senior pilot at KLM. The incident is used>to show the importance of the copilot speaking up when he>thinks something is wrong and to assert himself. In so far as I am aware, that's BS!Furthermore, did the Tower Controllers happen to be listening to a football match at the time? if so I wonder did that have anything to do with the "quality" of airport traffic control on offer. Best and Warm RegardsAdrian Wainer

[Guest PARADISE]

The Teneriffe disaster was, as is usually the case in air crashes , an accumulation of tragic errors made by all parties involved. The controllers, the PanAm crew and the KLM crew all made mistakes that led to the final outcome.John M

[Guest panda234]

"In so far as I am aware, that's BS!"Here is a link to a Flight Safety International article. http://www.casa.gov.au/fsa/2006/oct/24-31.pdfMy bad, it wasn't the copilot, it was the flight engineer who had doubts about whether they had clearance and whether the runway was clear. Yes, there were a combination of factors, there always is. But as they are now teaching in Multi Crew Cooperation courses, using this incident as an example, all crew members have both a right and a duty to speak up and assert themselves when they are in doubt about something that affects safety.