14 hours ago, flying_carpet said:

THIS!!

In MSFS (be it 2020 or 2024) accidents due to runway overrun due to low friction, falling from the sky due to icing on the wings*, failure of control surfaces, failure of <fill in with many other failures> ... you name it, will probably never happen because it would overcharge the (attention trigger word 😄) X-Box crowd.

Others already mentioned that the clouds may have improved visually, but flying through a thunderstorm is still terrifying harmless.

As a nice looking game MSFS is fine, but simulationwise still lacking a lot.

* I remember having seen a video of 2020 on YT some years ago, where the windshield of a GA-plane iced up and the video creator was VERY impressed about that. However, he didn't realize that he actually should have fallen from the sky due to worse flow around the wings and the plane weight. Visually it was indeed nice, but SIMULATION: zero. This is only one example.

I just can't understand why you imangine to come here in the MSFS forum to antagonize the sim and the product. What is your problem? You like another sim good for you and just stick to that forum. How many warnings do have in this forum anyways?

Edited September 4, 2025Sep 4 by JBDB-MD80

13 minutes ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

I just can't understand why you imangine to come here in the MSFS forum to antagonize the sim and the product. What is your problem? You like another sim good for you and just stick to that forum. How many warnings do have in this forum anyways?

Well he's not wrong, he's pointing out factual issues with the simulation like everyone else in this thread.

If you have a personal issue with the poster then add him to your ignore list.

4 minutes ago, MarcG said:

Well he's not wrong, he's pointing out factual issues with the simulation like everyone else in this thread.

If you have a personal issue with the poster then add him to your ignore list.

Well I am not going to respond much to you but you had a problem with MSFS for years now. Nothing more to say and no I will not ignore anyone. They can never do right with you.

Edited September 4, 2025Sep 4 by JBDB-MD80

21 minutes ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

Well I am not going to respond much to you but you had a problem with MSFS for years now. Nothing more to say and no I will not ignore anyone. They can never do right with you.

Ok so you just have a problem with people who post about factual issues with the game, seems you can't accept other people's valid opinions. 🙄

Just now, MarcG said:

Ok so you just have a problem with people who post about factual issues with the game, seems you can't accept other people's valid opinions. 🙄

The person you are defending has a history in the MSFS forum of posting in bad faith: 

 

4 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

The person you are defending has a history in the MSFS forum of posting in bad faith: 

I'm well aware of his history, but again in that post above he's not wrong ,I can still easily fly a Cub through a thunderstorm.

What about all the other posts in this thread, are you going to go through everyone's posting history?

Are you also unable to accept other people's opinions? 

Instead of jumping on individual users playing "forum moderator", let others express their opinions on what is wrong with the title and if you don't like a post then move on and ignore it, it's quite simple really.

Edited September 4, 2025Sep 4 by MarcG

4 minutes ago, MarcG said:

I'm well aware of his history, but again in that post above he's not wrong ,I can still easily fly a Cub through a thunderstorm.

What about all the other posts in this thread, are you going to go through everyone's posting history?

Are you also unable to accept other people's opinions? 

Instead of jumping on individual users playing "forum moderator", let others express their opinions on what is wrong with the title and if you don't love a post then move on, it's quite simple really.

Look, I think there are a class of users who genuinely use MSFS, and criticize it because they want it to be better. I would put you and MrBitsFlyer into this class - just genuine users of MSFS who want it to improve. Then there are users that don't really use MSFS, and just come into the MSFS forum, post in bad faith, and get a lot of threads in the MSFS forum locked.  When you have a history of getting a lot of threads in the MSFS forum locked because of your agenda, that's where I draw the line and say, this person isn't adding anything constructive to the conversation.

 

Edited September 4, 2025Sep 4 by abrams_tank

35 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

Look, I think there are a class of users who genuinely use MSFS, and criticize it because they want it to be better. I would put you and MrBitsFlyer into this class - just genuine users of MSFS who want it to improve. Then there are users that don't really use MSFS, and just come into the MSFS forum, post in bad faith, and get a lot of threads in the MSFS forum locked.  When you have a history of getting a lot of threads in the MSFS forum locked because of your agenda, that's where I draw the line and say, this person isn't adding anything constructive to the conversation.

 

So ignore him and move on, you and the other guy are the culprits in derailing this thread with your opinions of him not his actual post which is factually correct and his opinion - like everyone else's in this thread.

I apologise for playing my part in derailing this thread, I would just like all opinions to be welcomed no matter the poster, I shall end my part here.

 

As you were thread...

VRAM management (although buying a 5090 seems to have made that a moot point) and some of the included aircraft are still in terrible shape (Saab 340) or need some big improvements for me to use them regularly (A330).

Edited September 4, 2025Sep 4 by regis9

32 minutes ago, MarcG said:

I apologise for playing my part in derailing this thread, I would just like all opinions to be welcomed no matter the poster, I shall end my part here.

Excellent, thanks. Others please do the same so we can get back on topic. 😁

20 hours ago, MarcG said:

Performance; which is still atrocious with single digit FPS on landing no matter the airport size (no mods in use). DX12 still not good enough, needs more work, VRAM issues still persist.

Not for most people The sim is incredibly smooth for me on landing and just about everywhere. Must be your system? 

13 hours ago, keight said:

8. birds (I still don’t understand why the flightsim includes deer and elephants, but not birds that are related to aviation)

FS Birds from South Oak (available from simmarket) adds birds. Loads of 'em. And it works fine in 2024. They wont fly into your engine though, if thats what you are after.

1 hour ago, MarcG said:

Ok so you just have a problem with people who post about factual issues with the game, seems you can't accept other people's valid opinions. 🙄

No I do not have no problem with peoples issues with the sim/game its being outlandish is the problem. I am going to take the high road and follow Ray's post and leave this one alone. Last note MSFS and (2024) is no where perfect but I have not seen anyone who suggested it did or was.

Edited September 4, 2025Sep 4 by JBDB-MD80

I am very dissapointed that we are in september of 2025 and still the career mode is so lacking. I want to be able to fly all my planes, and I dont want to fight with ATC all the way through. 

39 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Not for most people The sim is incredibly smooth for me on landing and just about everywhere. Must be your system? 

Nope not my system, this is widely reported (has been for months and continues to be) on the official forums and elsewhere.

The issue is clear when the very next exact same flight it's perfectly fine, therefore there's still something not working correctly with performance as a whole.

Edited September 4, 2025Sep 4 by MarcG