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Microsoft Flight Simulator | Local Legend 22: The NAMC YS-11

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8 minutes ago, flyforever said:

Interesting. In fact, the throttle image in the sim does not have a "beta" section. When I was calibrating the throttles, I noticed that both engines go into beta, thus slowing the aircraft. The spot view HUD also confirms this. Based on your information, therefore, I suspect that Inibuild applied a generic "turbo" solution to this aircraft. The low price tag is always a good indicator of fidelity or lack thereof. 

That said, most of my flying is in smallish airports, and the reversers sure help fly this aircraft into smaller fields. 

The prop going into a flat mode and then nudging the rpms kind of can act like a brake in this regard so maybe that was a low-fidelity compromise, though for realism I believe that the best bet is to not map reverse to hardware, pending any updates from inibuilds.

Looking forward to diving into this one, hoping that there's some semblance of realism with the fuel trimmers and how the engines work in general. 

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9 minutes ago, flyforever said:

Interesting. In fact, the throttle image in the sim does not have a "beta" section. When I was calibrating the throttles, I noticed that both engines go into beta, thus slowing the aircraft. The spot view HUD also confirms this. Based on your information, therefore, I suspect that Inibuild applied a generic "turbo" solution to this aircraft. The low price tag is always a good indicator of fidelity or lack thereof. 

That said, most of my flying is in smallish airports, and the reversers sure help fly this aircraft into smaller fields. 

So it's a little bit complicated because the sims turboprop simulation is really based on a PT6, but the YS-11 does have some control of the blade pitch that allows it to use a reduced blade pitch in ground operations for increased drag and reduced thrust in lower power situations. You're not directly controlling the prop pitch angle, but the blades can go down to 0* of pitch when the low stop lever is in the ground position

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5 minutes ago, Stavros said:

So it's a little bit complicated because the sims turboprop simulation is really based on a PT6, but the YS-11 does have some control of the blade pitch that allows it to use a reduced blade pitch in ground operations for increased drag and reduced thrust in lower power situations. You're not directly controlling the prop pitch angle, but the blades can go down to 0* of pitch when the low stop lever is in the ground position

Correct. The manual does describe a lever that changes the propeller pitch for flight and ground operation. I will test this feature and, if effective, I can disable the "beta". Currently, Axis and Oh's enables me to configure the throttle lever so that at some point in low end of the travel, it can trigger reverse. My custom homemade quadrant has a detent point for such operation.

2 hours ago, flyforever said:

Correct. The manual does describe a lever that changes the propeller pitch for flight and ground operation. I will test this feature and, if effective, I can disable the "beta". Currently, Axis and Oh's enables me to configure the throttle lever so that at some point in low end of the travel, it can trigger reverse. My custom homemade quadrant has a detent point for such operation.

Just tried it and it works well. Snaps into flight mode when advancing the throttles and manually moving it to ground fine when at idle while landing seems to result in a notable slowdown.

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6 hours ago, edpatino said:

Yes, maybe. I flew the YS-11 countless of hours when running FSX and P3D. It's a nice old plane.

I flew that one as well.  IMO this is a lot better.  It's not bug free and it's not high end study level - but it's still pretty nice!

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Here's the manual!  52 pages not too shabby!

https://forum.inibuilds.com/topic/32148-ys-11-manual/

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5 hours ago, jon b said:

As an ex HS748 driver this interest me but I can’t help thinking I’ll be slightly disappointed it’s so near to a 748 but not quite there.

I flew the HS748 for a years back in the late 1990s. It was my first larger aircraft. Back then in the north most approaches were NDB with ADFs the type you had to tune and identify. Usually the ADFs would not point quite the same so you'd average it out. The company had 6 of these.

2 hours ago, STK said:

Just tried it and it works well. Snaps into flight mode when advancing the throttles and manually moving it to ground fine when at idle while landing seems to result in a notable slowdown.

Yes, feels very much like the ATR in real life going from flight to ground Idle.  
 

Very rare to need the brakes or reverse on that airplane. 

40 minutes ago, dbw1 said:

I flew the HS748 for a years back in the late 1990s. It was my first larger aircraft. Back then in the north most approaches were NDB with ADFs the type you had to tune and identify. Usually the ADFs would not point quite the same so you'd average it out. The company had 6 of these.

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54 minutes ago, ATRguy said:

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Calm Air. How about yourself?

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9 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

The storm scope (I assume thats what it is) appears INOP.  But the overall "clickability" (thats my new word) of the cockpit switches and stuff is decent.  And it looks great.

 

Yeah, it's a weather radio...

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10 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

The storm scope (I assume thats what it is) appears INOP.

I don't know how to turn it on personally, but I've seen pictures of it working on the MSFS forums.

edit: ah found the switch

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3 hours ago, dbw1 said:

Calm Air. How about yourself?

Canadian North!

I am used to hearing hundreds of Viscount start-ups with the Darts, and I seem to remember the high pitched scream was more prominent. 
Not a bad attempt though.  I will just buy it straight out at the weekend as it seems really interesting and different.

I would absolutely love a Viscount along with the F-27 and HS748 - all Dart engines. 
As I mentioned earlier, I think JustFlight would be the best candidate to produce these.  I think they have done them all in the past for the older sims.

There were also a few older British aircraft like the Herald and Argosy (a freighter) that used Darts.  Massive nostalgia for me.

Sorry for the obsession, but the Dart is one of my favourite engines due to the sound - it's stuck in my head from my youth.  Flames out the back during start-ups was not uncommon as well!  :biggrin:

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