Has anyone asked as yet why I should have to buy this for good sounds?  Rather than pmdg having this in the first place?

I'm looking forward to a comparison video. I know what I get with Boris audio as I own several of his products. I am also aware what we get with PMDG from decades of owning there products. Sound has never been a strong suit with them. Sound are always going to be subjective to the end user and system hardware. 

47 minutes ago, Boomer said:

Has anyone asked as yet why I should have to buy this for good sounds?  Rather than pmdg having this in the first place?

PMDG is doing an update. They are months behind schedule on it. Further, the first release is for the GE only. No timetable  given for the RR and PW. Knowing PMDG, expect mid 2026 at the earliest. 
 

They have utterly failed in the sound department and have failed for years. The noise got so loud (no pun) they went out and hired people and bought equipment to address it. This is an ongoing issue with this company that they are usually years behind other developers since MSFS released 5 years ago. They need to inject new blood at the top IMO to take them into a more out of the box thinking way of doing things. Their EFB on the 777 for example. RSR went on and on about how innovative it is. lol, it’s about as basic as it gets and every other dev out there beats it by a long shot. RSR is no Steve Jobs. He is more like Tim Cook, keeping the company behind. 

8 hours ago, Zangoose said:

777 Sound Set Update 1.1.0 - Now Out

 

• Changelog: Added a PDF Manual - Refer to manual on product page via ORBX Direct or Central - PLEASE take a look at the recommended settings, try it with those, and adjust to your liking. There are quite a few settings that can totally wreck the sounds
• Made buzz fade out a little bit slower and later in the climb for - all engine variants (faster speed),
• Made turbulence a bit more sensitive,
• Made master warning a bit quieter,
• Increased slat sound distance (you can hear it farther out),
• Added flap and slat sounds outside,
• Made avionics ventilation fan have a bit more bass,
• PW Drop spool reworked, now behaves a bit better (thanks @Andro ),
• Distance and attenuation curve for exterior hydraulics and fans reworked,
• Chiller boost fan sounds louder and sharper,
• Fixed pax chatter in 777-300ER in 2020,
• Completely redid GE-90 94B buzz (777-200ER only),
• Made exterior GE-90 115B buzz quieter,
• Made the ACARS chime slightly less distorted,
• Added correct wailer and master caution sounds,
• Added autopilot engage and disengage solenoid clunks,
• Made APU (especially the startup) a little louder on the exterior,
• Added cockpit curtain sound to 777F,
• Made fueling rush louder on the GE-90,
• Fixed RR eng2 idle not playing,
• Made cockpit wind a bit louder at 320 knots IAS (kept it the same under),
• Added exterior fuel pump sound (200ER only),
• Made spoiler auto-deploy and retract a bit quieter,
• Added slat turbulence/drag sounds,
• Fixed passenger chatter in 2024

1.1 in one week... very responsive.. 👍

Looking forward to updating this when i get home and get a cargo hop in!!

Edited October 17, 2025Oct 17 by Maxis

10 hours ago, B777ER said:

PMDG is doing an update. They are months behind schedule on it. Further, the first release is for the GE only. No timetable  given for the RR and PW. Knowing PMDG, expect mid 2026 at the earliest. 
 

They have utterly failed in the sound department and have failed for years. The noise got so loud (no pun) they went out and hired people and bought equipment to address it. This is an ongoing issue with this company that they are usually years behind other developers since MSFS released 5 years ago. They need to inject new blood at the top IMO to take them into a more out of the box thinking way of doing things. Their EFB on the 777 for example. RSR went on and on about how innovative it is. lol, it’s about as basic as it gets and every other dev out there beats it by a long shot. RSR is no Steve Jobs. He is more like Tim Cook, keeping the company behind. 

RSR commented that the new sound update was in beta and would be rolled out in the coming weeks. I wasn’t going to wait more and more weeks,having waited so long already. The difference between Boris sound set and the PMDG sound set is amazing, Boris sound set adds enormously to the immersion. So glad I got it, and look only a week after release and there is a huge update. I doubt I will bother trying PMDG sound set when it releases.  

I will definitely try the upcoming PMDG sound set when it is released, but the Boris Audioworks sound package is definitely a significant upgrade when compared to the existing sounds.

Wow! Blew me out of the water with these sounds! As someone who spent too much time on United PW 777s the deep hum taxi sounds gives me flashbacks! thank you Boris!!!!

Edited October 18, 2025Oct 18 by UAL4life

15 hours ago, carlanthony24 said:

The arrogance.

Indeed. Mathjis is really 'kicking up the dust' over there and keeps posting arrogant answers to anyone who's mentioning alternatives to their narrative...

Why did they hire him??

I seriously doubt that their 'updated sounds' would surpase Boris' masterpiece. 

I don't understand why people get so frustrated that we are given an option for much improved sounds on the 777 and MD-80 (leonardo) at an extra cost.  Yes, it would be nice if they came with the addon.  But market innovators have found ways to improve payware airplanes.  It's kind of like being frustrated that you still have to buy payware planes since you bought the simulator itself.  

Exactly, and no one is forced to buy an extra soundset.  The sounds that come with the 777 are serviceable, they generally sound like a 777.  If someone is like me, and audio is one of the most important parts, it’s well worth the relatively small price for a incredible upgrade.

I am still a bit puzzled about the rather faint sounds from some of the VC switches and dials. The sound associated with the left side landing light switch is rather faint, and I can hardly hear the APU selector at all. Maybe it is supposed to be almost soundless? Maybe I have been spoiled by the satisfying "clunk" and "click" sounds in the 737NG VC (and I am talking about the PMDG sounds here, not the Boris Audioworks sound package)?

Edited October 18, 2025Oct 18 by Christopher Low

How do we give feedback for future updates? Although the slat sound is very accurate, its actually a bit quiet. 

1 hour ago, avi8tir said:

How do we give feedback for future updates? Although the slat sound is very accurate, its actually a bit quiet. 

Boris will pop in here from time to time but ultimately best to just give him a ping on his discord, he's really receptive.

5 hours ago, micstatic said:

I don't understand why people get so frustrated that we are given an option for much improved sounds on the 777 and MD-80 (leonardo) at an extra cost...

From my point of view, it isn't frustration at having the option.  Options are good.  It is just that we shouldnt have to pay for extra/upgraded sounds for these so called 'premium products' in the first place.  At those prices they should be good enough straight out of the box shouldn't they? That is where the frustration lies - nothing to do with Boris.

Edited October 18, 2025Oct 18 by bobcat999

On 10/17/2025 at 4:43 AM, Boomer said:

Has anyone asked as yet why I should have to buy this for good sounds?  Rather than pmdg having this in the first place?

This is one of the reason I never buy addons that aren’t on sale. 

I snagged the 77F for $35. So if I decide I can’t live with the sounds, adding the Boris pack is no big deal.