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MSFS 2020 1.39.9.0 vs 2024 1.6.19.0 - Ultra settings

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You decide what looks best to you :

 

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  • You see progress thats right but all those things don't really make me want to switch to MSFS2024, especially when I consider the many unresolved bugs. Sorry to say that like this but thats only my op

  • Some of us just don't want anything to do with Beta's, aircraft that work with one beta build but not another, progression, regression, we just want a stable, know exactly what you are going to get ev

  • Those who, for reasons best known only to themselves are still using 2020 will obviously say 2020. Those who left it behind 12 months ago and can now barely even remember it will say 2024. No video wi

Useless comparison since both sims use the same data for depicting the world. Make a bush flying vid and it will look hugely different. And running a performance comparsion with ultra settings on a machine that is obviously first GPU limited and then massively CPU limited doesnt make a lot of sense neither, no? 

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Those who, for reasons best known only to themselves are still using 2020 will obviously say 2020. Those who left it behind 12 months ago and can now barely even remember it will say 2024. No video will convince a 2020 user that 2024 is better however blindingly obvious it is to the rest of us. This thread will briefly demonstrate that before being shut down. 

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19 minutes ago, AnkH said:

Useless comparison since both sims use the same data for depicting the world. Make a bush flying vid and it will look hugely different. And running a performance comparsion with ultra settings on a machine that is obviously first GPU limited and then massively CPU limited doesnt make a lot of sense neither, no? 

Like I wrote 

“ Decide what looks best to you “

Anything else is not relevant to me.

You can clearly see that there is progress. 
And a 14900K + RTX 4080 + 64 Gb DDR 5 is a modern set of hardware to make a good performance comparison.

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I will not comment on whether one looks better than the other, but I have noticed something regarding the lakes. If you look at the first lake in the video, you can clearly see a couple of those "land bars" in the MSFS 2020 clip (one across the point where it narrows at the front, and a smaller one across the entrance to a smaller inlet at back left). However, those "land bars" are not there in the MSFS 2024 clip. I can also see another "land bar" in a small lake to the right (next to a larger lake), but again this is not present in the MSFS 2024 clip.

So, bearing that in mind, can someone let me know if the "land bars" issue that is present in MSFS 2020 has finally been resolved in MSFS 2024? A good test would be to see if the two "land bars" at the top end of Southampton Water (on the final approach path to runway 02 at EGHI Southampton) are still there. I thought that someone mentioned a while back that this problem still existed, but maybe the SU4 Beta has corrected it?

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Based on the video, the 2024 looks better from a graphical standpoint, but the 2020 is better in terms of performance, and it's smoother on landing. In my opinion, if you fly IFR better, the 2020 is. The 2024 isn't ready yet according to my IFR standards. Will it be ready with the SU4? Maybe.

Ps: Interestingly, one year after the launch of 2024, average users of 2020 are the majority, 60%, while those of 2024 are 40%. If SU4 will be a good update, the difference will diminish.

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14 minutes ago, LIML2020 said:

Based on the video, the 2024 looks better from a graphical standpoint, but the 2020 is better in terms of performance, and it's smoother on landing. In my opinion, if you fly IFR better, the 2020 is. The 2024 isn't ready yet according to my IFR standards. Will it be ready with the SU4? Maybe.

Ps: Interestingly, one year after the launch of 2024, average users of 2020 are the majority, 60%, while those of 2024 are 40%. If SU4 will be a good update, the difference will diminish.

where did you pull those percentage figures from?

1 hour ago, GSalden said:

 

And a 14900K + RTX 4080 + 64 Gb DDR 5 is a modern set of hardware to make a good performance comparison.

It is a laptop, as such this 14900 and 4080 have nothing to do with the desktop counterparts. 

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35 minutes ago, AnkH said:

It is a laptop, as such this 14900 and 4080 have nothing to do with the desktop counterparts. 

If I am correct I did not write anything about either laptops nor desktops.

He showed that MSFS 2020 has better performance but MSFS 2024 has better visuals.

There is nothing more to it ✈️

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3 hours ago, LIML2020 said:

Based on the video, the 2024 looks better from a graphical standpoint, but the 2020 is better in terms of performance, and it's smoother on landing. In my opinion, if you fly IFR better, the 2020 is. The 2024 isn't ready yet according to my IFR standards. Will it be ready with the SU4? Maybe.

Ps: Interestingly, one year after the launch of 2024, average users of 2020 are the majority, 60%, while those of 2024 are 40%. If SU4 will be a good update, the difference will diminish.

Just curious, believe me.  I'm keen to understand what 2024 doesn't have that makes it "not ready" for your IFR standards?

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You see progress thats right but all those things don't really make me want to switch to MSFS2024, especially when I consider the many unresolved bugs. Sorry to say that like this but thats only my opinion !

So still waiting for a more better MSFS2024..

Don`t wanna be a Beta Tester anymore, did this with the whole MSFS2020 over that years and that is just enough for me.

cheers 😉

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4 minutes ago, pmplayer said:

You see progress thats right but all those things don't really make me want to switch to MSFS2024, especially when I consider the many unresolved bugs. Sorry to say that like this but thats only my opinion !

So still waiting for a more better MSFS2024..

Don`t wanna be a Beta Tester anymore, did this with the whole MSFS2020 over that years and that is just enough for me.

cheers 😉

Dont see my reply as a discussion.  As I look at the MSFS 2024 bugs list there are a lot of things that needs to be sorted out. If I look at the same listing I have good (great) performance, hardly any stutters. For me the first 20 or 25 reported bugs are not that important. 

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4 hours ago, LIML2020 said:

In my opinion, if you fly IFR better, the 2020 is. The 2024 isn't ready yet according to my IFR standards

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Some of us just don't want anything to do with Beta's, aircraft that work with one beta build but not another, progression, regression, we just want a stable, know exactly what you are going to get every flight sim with all of our add-ons whereas some people are still waiting on the last things like ChasePlane for example to move over. 

Some can even say, yes, that looks better but I "still" choose something else.

I have a feeling the release of SU4 will allow people to stay in the prod release train and not feel the need to jump from Beta to Beta but to be fair, that's not where '24 has been. 

The first few Beta's have been CRITICAL to getting MSFS to where it needs to be and arguably should have been at release which many people is really with the release of SU4.  (which is still a Beta)

Some of us just didn't want "that" again, we lived through it with 2020 and didn't want to go through it again.  Others want to be on the latest and greatest and are excited to see what the next Beta holds, no issue with either of those as fortunately both sims are still supported and even share a digital twin. 

Everyone wins and no one should really have an issue with either choice or as some of us do dabbling in both.

No one should really feel the need to bash 24 anymore nor should anyone be making condescending comments to people still using 2020.  You know, actually respecting a choice...

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I'm genuinely curious. What are these "many" bugs when compared to 2020?

And on a side note, can you pan around with the mouse in 2020 while maintaining control of the aircraft yet? That got sorted in 2024. 

 

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