1 hour ago, St Mawgan said:

I already feel like the hype is too much, even after ten minutes of it. FSReborn + this presenter is like a match made in h.ell for me. 

Two tone Murphy isn't exactly my choice of streamer either, but the airplane speaks for itself 👍

10 minutes ago, kevinfirth said:

Two tone Murphy isn't exactly my choice of streamer either, but the airplane speaks for itself 👍

I have only seen the awful trailer and pictures of it on the ground so far so, no not really.  I'm sure it's going to be good but the hyperbole from one side and the sycophancy from the other between now and the release has already turned me off. I wish there was a filter to block it completely for the next six months.  

12 minutes ago, St Mawgan said:

I wish there was a filter to block it completely for the next six months.  

I have one between my ears 😉

1 minute ago, guenseli said:

I have one between my ears 😉

You should see a doctor 😉

Phoenom = HYPE so TwoTone was the perfect host.

dd

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Just out of curiosity, what is the runway performance of the Phenom 300E? Can it operate from relatively short runways?

13 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

Just out of curiosity, what is the runway performance of the Phenom 300E? Can it operate from relatively short runways?

Takeoff distance of 3,209 feet (978 meters) and a landing distance of 2,220 feet (677 meters), this is on ISA Conditions...

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As I said before, if the aircraft does have its systems well modeled and a maintenance and failure model then it is an aircraft I have been waiting for for decades and I will get a great deal of use out of it. But I am too old for hype now, an whatever receptivity I had for it was destroyed with the iniA350 last year. I will wait to see what is released but it looks promising.

What is interesting are the assumptions that people want this kind of deep role play, which I think may be a valid assumption and a nod to the idea that simmers are not so interested in just setting up a flight and completing it. That kind simming is in fact the niche and a larger number want this much broader and deeper experience -- placing an FBO, seeing it on approach and being excited, etc.

5 hours ago, guenseli said:

I have one between my ears

THIS one still is the most important tool to stay...reasonably sane!? 😎🤗 I actively try to avoid all self-proclaimed experts. Usually the principle applies: The louder someone shouts, the less right they are.

And I never forget that most of the windbags on YouTube (and nowadays the internet in general) are only interested in increasing their own wealth. This elimination of background noise at the lowest levels gives me the time and freedom to find something truly enlightening.

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Whether you like or don't like the music or the presenter or both, the purpose of pre-release trailers is to educate and help the community learn what is forthcoming. This jet is built 100% exclusively with the 2024 SDK and will be the most advanced systems depth light jet for the Flight Simulator platform. As FSReborn dives into the possibilities of aircraft development for MSFS2024, so will the final product evolve in parallel. Any future trailers will likely showcase what is new and possible with a jet in MSFS2024, previously not possible in MSFS2020.

8 hours ago, St Mawgan said:

I have only seen the awful trailer and pictures of it on the ground so far so, no not really.  I'm sure it's going to be good but the hyperbole from one side and the sycophancy from the other between now and the release has already turned me off. I wish there was a filter to block it completely for the next six months.  

Your negativity would be more impactful if it weren't a constant. 😉

 

 

18 hours ago, Georgleboui said:

Watching it now. The FBO is stuff is incredible - reminds me of the HotStart in XP but the fact that you spawn it in the world is even more immersive.

Just like with the FSR 500, the plane itself isn't really my cup of tea unfortunately but will get this for sure to support Raul and his vision.

You an analog gauge guy?  I'm not trying to be a d*ck I'm just generally curious why someone wouldn't want the very best bizjet to ever grace a Microsoft flight sim.

22 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

You an analog gauge guy?  I'm not trying to be a d*ck I'm just generally curious why someone wouldn't want the very best bizjet to ever grace a Microsoft flight sim.

He already said 'but will get this for sure' 

 

 

Really looking forward to this one.  Also, hoping Working Title implements Along-Track Offset in the G5000.  

Gregg

3 hours ago, The Flight Level said:

Whether you like or don't like the music or the presenter or both, the purpose of pre-release trailers is to educate and help the community learn what is forthcoming. This jet is built 100% exclusively with the 2024 SDK and will be the most advanced systems depth light jet for the Flight Simulator platform. As FSReborn dives into the possibilities of aircraft development for MSFS2024, so will the final product evolve in parallel. Any future trailers will likely showcase what is new and possible with a jet in MSFS2024, previously not possible in MSFS2020.

This is a strange assertion to me.   I completely agree that the purpose of pre-release content is to educate and help the community to understand what will be on offer.

But why does that purpose in any way require blaring library music, minor YouTube 'celebrities' or personas (whose aim is usually to draw attention away from the proposition in question, and towards themself), and all of the other style over substance ingredients that make up contemporary flight sim pre-release  and 'cInEmAtIc' videos? 

The music, presenter and other aspects that target those with an attention deficit are not inherent, required ingredients of a video that aims to introduce and build excitement for a forthcoming product.

Case in point - the recent Black Square video features.   No blaring, bland music, no loud, irritating 'persona'.   Just the staggeringly talented developer (Nick C) showcasing his work, and what it will bring to the potential customer.  Those videos (along with most feature videos from Just Flight) are the true state of the art, because they're not copying off everyone else (as 99% of 'cinematic' videos do).   

They are confident in their product and don't need all the tiresome glossy gift wrap.

  As you may just subtley be able to detect, I'm not a fan of the whole Aviation Lads style - and to be fair to those guys, it's mostly because the entire world has copied their production values and made 'cinematic' the only option we ever have for pre-release features.
 

  

3 hours ago, The Flight Level said:

Any future trailers will likely showcase what is new and possible with a jet in MSFS2024, previously not possible in MSFS2020.

If you're saying that these future showcases will have less music (covering up the product sounds), less YouTube personalities, and won't be intrinsically cinematic then that is genuinely great to hear. 

Edited November 20, 2025Nov 20 by JYW