I have virtually zero interest in the 777X. The F is more than enough to satisfy my 777 requirements.

The cargo world flies the heck out of the MD11 and 767 these days, they are hardly some ancient anomoly, and while the 744F is still used I don't believe the older models really are, at least I haven't seen any IRL. The 767 is something that still makes me keep XP12 installed, I'd kill for a quality one in MSFS! Same for the 777, only reason I fly it is cargo, and the PMDG rocks! I just don't see why they don't do the 767 😞 

4 hours ago, Farlis said:

You don't say.

 

Now you can think real hard why that was. 

Oh I know.

Because it was no longer flown widely by non cargo operators at the time of release and therfore the sales were not meeting comparable sales to the ones of aircraft that were and still are there.

 

It's the same reason why PMDG sold the 737-600 for less than the -800. It is not widely operated, therefore less people would buy it. So they made it cheaper to account for that.

Or why Fenix skipped the A318.

 

I did not say no one should make vintage airliners. I just said why it makes less sense to make them and why no one should expect PMDG to make a 767 any time soon.

many say the reason they didn't make the MD-11 is because the lead dev on that program went to a very well known airbus developer.  

45 minutes ago, jfv said:

The cargo world flies the heck out of the MD11 and 767 these days

sadly as of last week that's no longer the case.  The MD-11 and DC-10 have been AD'd and may never make it back.  

21 hours ago, JWfan said:

Buddy, you sound like a broken record.

Broken record?  What's that?

:-)

8 hours ago, Farlis said:

In the reality where virtually no one flies historic airlines online and none of the streamers I watch flies them.

Then maybe you should get out more.

Babbling nonsense as facts.

There really should be a pill for that.

One thing I appreciated from the interview is Robert acknowledging that PMDG, though is known for generally doing a good job, should not always considered the bar and that MSFS sorta threw them into a "5 year process" of recalibrating their identity. They had to reorient themselves to new customer expectations from the upgraded environment of MSFS (namely sounds and graphics).

For me, that was never much of a problem as I was more of a systems guy than anything (which hopefully they continue to improve). I rarely if ever go into the cabin and I have no idea how the sound environment is in the flight deck, as I'm not a RW pilot, so I sorta shrug it off as the current ones are sorta believable for a basic layman. None of those things are immersion killers for me. Graphically I never considered the modeling to be that bad. I've certainly seen worse on payware products.

Honestly, I'm just happy that PMDG's contribution in bringing three families of high fidelity airliners to MSFS at such a great pace, even if they seemingly fall short to expectations to some.

Edited November 19, 2025Nov 19 by Kevin_28

I finally bought good speakers for my computer setup, and with Boris’ sounds, the -200ER with the Rolls engines…. word not allowed it sounds good. 
 

But if you want a treat, go to the IAE Fenix, move the camera to a couple rows in front of the engine and pull the power from TOGA to CLB. 
 

Best sound I’ve heard out of a flight sim. 

I always set up passenger cameras just ahead of the engines so I can get that perfect passenger engine sound experience.

Agree the IAE Airbuses are a treat!

11 hours ago, regis9 said:

I always set up passenger cameras just ahead of the engines so I can get that perfect passenger engine sound experience.

Agree the IAE Airbuses are a treat!

Are the IAE ones the engines with that "sawtooth" buzz sound?

I love it when designers/sound engineers have that kind of differentiation, in that the GE sounds different than an IAE or P&W for example.  Now it's mostly the norm with a hi-fi add-on but that wasn't always so.  We're livin the dream dudes.

Yea the IAE sound much more aggressive during cutback after takeoff, it's a great noise.

I'm also a big fan of the PMDG 737 low rumbling effect when the engines throttle back as descent starts - with a good headset it sounds fantastic.

On 11/18/2025 at 7:28 PM, DaveS said:

I had their 757/767 for Fly! lol

Same here

Best (unfinished) Sim!

Rest in peace Richard Harvey

https://fselite.net/content/pmdg-shares-new-previews-for-its-upcoming-737-for-msfs-2024/

 

Already purchased 3 versions of the same plane from them. I’m out, no more.

I wish we get more detail on the exterior and what features externally we now have.  It was briefly mentioned that FS2024 now supports user select visual options in the EFB.  We have seen this on some other planes recently released.  I would like to think the FS2024 737NG from PMDG will have this but it would be nice to know from the horses mouth.