December 4, 2025Dec 4 Navigraph have release their long awaited (by me at least) update to include VFR charts from Rogers covering Europe (including the UK) So far I haven't seen an updated client app with support for this, only the web version but I'm sure the clients will be there very soon. (Amusingly to me Navigraph refer to these as EU Charts despite including UK and Norway but missing out Cyprus but I'm exceedingly happy whatever they want to call it) -- Update -- Updated client apps look to be rolling out now. Edited December 4, 2025Dec 4 by Matchstick
December 6, 2025Dec 6 Was excited to hear the news, decent VFR charts are very lacking over Europe, but unfortunately they are far too "fussy" for me for totally visual navigation, with no nav aids, moving maps, just a map, compass, stopwatch, pure visual navigation, like on my PPL training. The airspace and nav aid information obscure the ground detail in busy airspace like southern England, making it impossible to see the roads, rivers, trainlines I'm looking for. Not too bad in sparser areas like northern Scotland, Ireland. But hats off to Navigraph, an another addition that many will find useful, even if it's not for me, it really is my number 1 flightsim app. I actually use Skydemon maps for UK/Euro flying, just the right balance of chart information vs legibility of ground features. Its actually a real life app, a sort of poor mans ForeFlight, but rich in features, although I only subscribe for the maps! There a free trial if interested. https://www.skydemon.aero/start
December 6, 2025Dec 6 1 hour ago, Overload said: Its actually a real life app, a sort of poor mans ForeFlight That is a very good summary! A neat feature, and something I have tested in actual IMC is to fly an approach using only built in Skydemon HSI on my iPad. We practiced emergencies in marginal weather and if you drag the Compass arc at the bottom so it expands into a Compass rose it will turn into a 'virtual" HSI, simulating needles for an pseudo ILS as you approach an adjacent runway. Despite sluggish update intervals, you will get down from IMC if the airport at least offers cloudbase of 300ft or so (for proper final alignment) Obviously this is not an approved IFR navigation product, but if your internal systems malfunction, Skydemon serves as a helpful tool if you are aware of its limitations. EASA PPL SEPL + NQ / CB-IR in progress MSFS24 | X-Plane 12
December 6, 2025Dec 6 The new charts have their ups and downs. Airspaces and frequencies are easier to see than in the default VFR map, but the topographical background is, dare I say it...word not allowed. The default map is much better when it comes to topgraphical data. And it has the published patterns, so there is no need for an extra chart to figure out what you are supposed to fly. Edited December 6, 2025Dec 6 by Farlis
December 6, 2025Dec 6 Wow the vfr charts are very busy. Are there any guides that describe how to fly vfr in Europe? | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
December 6, 2025Dec 6 Flying VFR in Europe is a complicated business, not least because each country has it's own rules. There a lot more more class A airspace around even at low levels. This is a Skyvector pic of the airspace around Heathrow, Gatwick and Luton plus others, I've put red boxes around some of the airspace vertical delineations. There a huge swath around Heathrow and Gatwick that's class A above 2500ft, the control zones are class A down to the surface. As you get further away from the major airfields the base levels rise, but you still need to keep a close eye on where you are to avoid infringing class A airspace. Moving maps have made things a lot easier, when I was flying around there in the olden days, we didn't have those, you really needed a good map!
December 6, 2025Dec 6 Roughly the same airspace in the new Navigraph charts - why I described them as fussy!
December 6, 2025Dec 6 1 hour ago, ryanbatc said: Are there any guides that describe how to fly vfr in Europe? <sacarstic mode on> (For France and heavy area) Just forget about Flight Following, avoid flying over any urban aeras (=small village), expect to read 3 pages of text for even small airports that includes which farm (and the name of the owner) you should avoid, plus time restrictions with curfew different in summer and winter, add some (very) local requirements that only local knows, dozens of notam and AIP-SUP even for a local flight, don't imagine flying over Paris (not even close to) like you do with the Special Flight Rules for LA or Central Park @ NY... and you're all set for VFR in France 😉 ! Circuit(s) and integration for one of my home airfield (LFPN): <sacarstic mode off> French bashing now off 😉 I'm lucky to flight VFR (in real) in the two world (US and France), there're pro's and con's 😉 Edited December 6, 2025Dec 6 by vbazillio Vincent B. Check my free MSFS sceneries : https://flightsim.to/profile/vbazillio/trending and my hardware configuration.
December 6, 2025Dec 6 For VFR flying in the UK, there's a massive dichotomy between flying in the south of England and the north. The south is incredibly congested (understandable with Heathrow, Gatwick, Stansted, Luton and others all within 50 miles of eachother). For a newcomer, VFR feels very complex and you're looking out for airspaces constantly and often changing your cruise altitude constantly, in order to comply. It's quite a different story where I mostly fly, in the north east of England. There are large areas of uncontrolled airspace where you can fly freely and enjoy the sights. There is still airspace around major airports (eg. Newcastle's zone intersects a large area of uncontrolled airspace that reaches from the far north of England right up into Scotland. A Sunday of flying for me here would probably look like; taking off at an airfield in uncontrolled airpace, flying to two other similar fields, without 'needing' to talk to anyone, then perhaps getting permission to enter Newcastle's zone (it's a always a yes and they are very helpful and kind towards GA) and landing at a final uncontrolled field. Compared to the south of the UK, we're really lucky and spoiled up here, and although GA is small, Microlighting (UK version of LSA) is growing exponentially here. Edited December 6, 2025Dec 6 by JYW Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
December 6, 2025Dec 6 2 hours ago, vbazillio said: <sacarstic mode on> (For France and heavy area) Just forget about Flight Following, avoid flying over any urban aeras (=small village), expect to read 3 pages of text for even small airports that includes which farm (and the name of the owner) you should avoid, plus time restrictions with curfew different in summer and winter, add some (very) local requirements that only local knows, dozens of notam and AIP-SUP even for a local flight, don't imagine flying over Paris (not even close to) like you do with the Special Flight Rules for LA or Central Park @ NY... and you're all set for VFR in France 😉 ! Circuit(s) and integration for one of my home airfield (LFPN): <sacarstic mode off> French bashing now off 😉 I'm lucky to flight VFR (in real) in the two world (US and France), there're pro's and con's 😉 Lol...there's SO MANY colors. I have to find a legend or something. USA airspace seems a lot more navigable but I'm pretty biased. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
December 6, 2025Dec 6 1 hour ago, JYW said: For VFR flying in the UK, there's a massive dichotomy between flying in the south of England and the north. The south is incredibly congested (understandable with Heathrow, Gatwick, Stansted, Luton and others all within 50 miles of eachother). For a newcomer, VFR feels very complex and you're looking out for airspaces constantly and often changing your cruise altitude constantly, in order to comply. It's quite a different story where I mostly fly, in the north east of England. There are large areas of uncontrolled airspace where you can fly freely and enjoy the sights. There is still airspace around major airports (eg. Newcastle's zone intersects a large area of uncontrolled airspace that reaches from the far north of England right up into Scotland. A Sunday of flying for me here would probably look like; taking off at an airfield in uncontrolled airpace, flying to two other similar fields, without 'needing' to talk to anyone, then perhaps getting permission to enter Newcastle's zone (it's a always a yes and they are very helpful and kind towards GA) and landing at a final uncontrolled field. Compared to the south of the UK, we're really lucky and spoiled up here, and although GA is small, Microlighting (UK version of LSA) is growing exponentially here. Ok great thanks for the insight. Are the zones controlled by ATC via radar services? Would they "identify" you as you transition the zones? In the USA, ATC would say the words "radar contact" to a vfr who is receiving flight following. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
December 6, 2025Dec 6 2 hours ago, vbazillio said: includes which farm (and the name of the owner) you should avoid This one made me laugh. We need a mod to show angry French farmers shaking pitchforks at us as we fly by.
December 6, 2025Dec 6 32 minutes ago, ryanbatc said: USA airspace seems a lot more navigable but I'm pretty biased. Yep, just a matter of getting use to. I learn to fly in US from San Diego (KMYF) which is not straight forward as well. It was after around a hundred of hours of flight in France. Here, with Paris and San Diego, we deal with congested airspaces. And the overall size is not the same. With the proper map type and scale (1/250 000 and the FLY map when available), it's flyable ! Edited December 6, 2025Dec 6 by vbazillio Vincent B. Check my free MSFS sceneries : https://flightsim.to/profile/vbazillio/trending and my hardware configuration.
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