The new EFB and the apps on it looks great. This will satisfy my 737 flying in MS2024.

35 minutes ago, Sonosusto said:

Thanks. I do enjoy something in depth in most planes but this could fit into my hangar. Does it have decent depth? I hardly considered it. Captain Peitt tried to convince me months ago but he left avsim for a long while. 

I prefer it to PMDG. In fact, I have not flown the 737 PMDG since I got the Ifly.

 

 

42 minutes ago, Sonosusto said:

Thanks. I do enjoy something in depth in most planes but this could fit into my hangar. Does it have decent depth? I hardly considered it. Captain Peitt tried to convince me months ago but he left avsim for a long while. 

I like it better than the PMDG too.  I'm not sure I'll even bother to update the PMDG 73s even to try them in 24, which will supposedly be pretty cheap.  I think the iFly is worth having for flight model alone, but systems and failure modeling is quite good.  

1 hour ago, Sonosusto said:

Thanks. I do enjoy something in depth in most planes but this could fit into my hangar. Does it have decent depth? I hardly considered it. Captain Peitt tried to convince me months ago but he left avsim for a long while. 

I also prefer it to the PMDG. It's flight model seems quite good to me and its systems are deep and well modeled. The EFB is not the most intuitive and there is no full native integration with SimBrief but I understand those things are coming with SP1. It's a great aircraft and a good part of the reason I really see no reason to update the old PMDGs.

3 hours ago, B777ER said:

The new EFB and the apps on it looks great. This will satisfy my 737 flying in MS2024.

Same, with a free cup of coffee from my Keurig!

10 hours ago, BIGSKY said:

Can we import Simbrief flight plan and weights finally?

you can import Simbrief flight plans already in the current version. Not sure when it was added, when I bought it back in June and it was already a feature.

Weights you still have to type in manually. Though I wonder if you can use the Simbrief EFB app for 2024, it does have an import weights button.

Edited December 6, 2025Dec 6 by Tuskin38

10 hours ago, Sonosusto said:

Thanks. I do enjoy something in depth in most planes but this could fit into my hangar. Does it have decent depth? I hardly considered it. Captain Peitt tried to convince me months ago but he left avsim for a long while. 

Hello,

I own the iFly and the PMDG 737-800. I'm not a pilot, but I do study-level training.

I've noticed (mentioned on the iFly Discord) a significant flaw that makes me prefer the PMDG 737-800 (I'm not part of the PMDG praetorian guard).

The 737 Max 8 has two problems that I'm sensitive to:

1. LNAV/VNAV is too unreliable when flying a non-IAN RNAV approach; for example: LIRP RNP Z RWY 22L transition IVAPE.
2. With a strong crosswind, the aircraft feels light, and you can easily veer off course.

11 hours ago, Sonosusto said:

Thanks. I do enjoy something in depth in most planes but this could fit into my hangar. Does it have decent depth? I hardly considered it. Captain Peitt tried to convince me months ago but he left avsim for a long while. 

Hello,

I own the iFly and the PMDG 737-800. I'm not a pilot, but I do "study-level training".

I've noticed (mentioned on the iFly Discord) a significant flaw that makes me prefer the PMDG 737-800 (I'm not part of the PMDG praetorian guard).

The 737 Max 8 has two problems that I'm sensitive to:

1. LNAV/VNAV is too unreliable when flying a No-IAN RNAV approach; for example: LIRP RNP Z RWY 22L transition IVAPE.

1. With a strong crosswind, the aircraft feels light, and you can easily veer off course Upon touchdown on the runway.

Edited December 6, 2025Dec 6 by Area

I’ve not flown the ifly in a while… I remember having issues with saving and loading panel states and having a default panel state upon launch. I’m assuming this was user error and it’s easy to do that now?

4 hours ago, Area said:

Hello,

I own the iFly and the PMDG 737-800. I'm not a pilot, but I do "study-level training".

I've noticed (mentioned on the iFly Discord) a significant flaw that makes me prefer the PMDG 737-800 (I'm not part of the PMDG praetorian guard).

The 737 Max 8 has two problems that I'm sensitive to:

1. LNAV/VNAV is too unreliable when flying a No-IAN RNAV approach; for example: LIRP RNP Z RWY 22L transition IVAPE.

1. With a strong crosswind, the aircraft feels light, and you can easily veer off course Upon touchdown on the runway.

I agree regarding the light feeling in wind conditions. That's an easy fix if they will address the obvious issue.

Regarding LNAV/VNAV being "too unreliable" in a NO IAN RNAV, without specifics, tells us nothing. Having mentioned that, iFly 737, compared to the PMDG, has a significant flaw regarding LNAV/VNAV; it's quite a stretch. 

 I did your scenario twice with L/R x-winds up to 30 KTS, and it was spot on. I wonder what went wrong. 

1 hour ago, MikeV1 said:

I’ve not flown the ifly in a while… I remember having issues with saving and loading panel states and having a default panel state upon launch. I’m assuming this was user error and it’s easy to do that now?

PMDG is much better in that regard.

5 hours ago, Area said:

LNAV/VNAV is too unreliable when flying a No-IAN RNAV approach; for example: LIRP RNP Z RWY 22L transition IVAPE

Hmm, I have pretty consistently found both LNAV and VNAV to be quite competent in the iFly, arguably better than PMDG's implementation. If I have time later this weekend I can try the LIPR approach but I would say autopiilot does not seem to be a drawback of the iFly. Panel States have not been implemented that well, I agree. This is an area I am hoping will be improved with SP1. 

1 hour ago, Cognita said:

Hmm, I have pretty consistently found both LNAV and VNAV to be quite competent in the iFly, arguably better than PMDG's implementation. If I have time later this weekend I can try the LIPR approach but I would say autopiilot does not seem to be a drawback of the iFly. Panel States have not been implemented that well, I agree. This is an area I am hoping will be improved with SP1. 

I simply wrote, "LNAV/VNAV is too unreliable when flying a No-IAN RNAV approach," nothing more, nothing less. I didn't generalize about LNAV/VNAV.

If you read my post above carefully, you'll see I've highlighted iFly's reply in red. Please read it carefully.

Furthermore, if you go to their Discord server, read point 12 of their August 2025 announcement; it details the LNAV malfunction fix.

Edited December 6, 2025Dec 6 by Area

4 minutes ago, Area said:

If you read my post above carefully

Yes, I see now, sorry for the misunderstanding. 

12 hours ago, Area said:

• LNAV/VNAV is too unreliable when flying a non-IAN RNAV approach; for example: LIRP RNP Z RWY 22L transition IVAPE.
• With a strong crosswind, the aircraft feels light, and you can easily veer off course.

It's funny; the LNAV / VNAV performance is the first thing that brought me to the iFly from the PMDG.  I see people make these comparisons and I don't understand them.  Now I agree that LNAV isn't perfect on the iFly (supposedly improvements are coming in SP1), but compared to the PMDG even with their new navdata format, the iFly seems much better to me.

My airline has a large network of proprietary RNP (AR) procedures that we rely on, and I've always enjoyed coding them into the navdata of various sim 73s and seeing how they work.  Many of these procedures are RNP .10, include things you don't see in public procedures like an RF leg to a runway waypoint, and they're built to a proprietary TERPs criteria that allows for closer proximity to terrain.  In other words, they're perfect for torture-testing the performance of a sim aircraft.

The PMDG puts me into mountains on some of these.  It won't even parse an RF leg to a runway, despite that combination being -424 compliant and used in real life.  It re-calculates VNAV path at every waypoint, sometimes with a couple hundred foot instantaneous change. 

The iFly parses all this stuff perfectly, the only complaint being that the auto flight doesn't always stay right on course.  But handflying the guidance, man, it's nice, and amazing to see this stuff work in the sim.  It's a night and day difference from the PMDG, so I'm always surprised when simmers say they're seeing the opposite.  I'm not sure what we could be doing differently. 

As far as flight model, I've seen people say this too, that the iFly feels light in turbulence.  Maybe it's because I don't use any third party turbulence apps and I have in-sim turbulence turned down to low (in 2024) because that seems more realistic to me, but the iFly flight model is better than the PMDG, and not by a little bit, and that's not even really an opinion but I'm willing to make it an objective statement - the iFly is a MUCH better 737 flight model.  I'm not sure if people are having a different experience than me, or if we're just talking about preferences or what.  Likely a little of both, there's so many different ways to set up the sim.  But it's funny - I used to defend the PMDG flight model, figuring it was plenty good enough for a desktop game, what else can you really expect?  Then I tried the iFly and saw what was possible 😉.