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FSS Releases Experimental Branches Of E-Jet Series Today

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2 minutes ago, Bigmack said:

I thought it was supposed to be released on Contrail. Not seeing anything yet.

It is. You have to uninstall it, go to your products and it will show as an option to install.

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  • I would make sure my product or area of expertise works PROPERLY and fulfill my promised deliverable commitments to my already PAID UP CUSTOMERS.  BEFORE trying to sell that service to others. 

  • "1. This is an experimental version. **ABSOLUTELY NO SUPPORT** will be provided. 2. Please do not post bugs from the experimental in <#1090728482968965180>." 🤣 ** ABSOLUTELY NO PURCH

  • So. They. Say.  -B

I’m guessing any x craft or 175 tutorial will work for the FSS version? 

Seems to work with one big caveat, I still have it darting right at the approach fix.  Coming into Salt Lake everything is fine until WEBER and the it just starts turning left like it always has. Apparently the LNAV issues are still numerous.  I tried landing at Bozeman and figured out you have to be way below the glide slope for it to capture and only about 30 degrees of course which is fine but the altitude thing is wierd.  Seems like it hunts for the loclaizer and then you dont get the glideslope because the plane is turning which is affecting speed.  If your dead nuts on it works fine.  The stable version works everytime for me.  For Experimental you need to be at least one whole dot below the glide slope,  my guess it the fidelity of the vertical guidance green arrow is off causing you to think you are below when in fact you aren't.  They had that problem back at release 10 and people were getting frustrated with ILS approaches.  It shows they kept their promise to keep working on it but it's far from finished. 

I despise FSS (still bought it years ago because I wanted an ejet) but the LNAV/VNAV is surprisingly good. Bugged and early access, yes, but far better than I expected them to be able to.

keep in mind the real VNAV is different from your Boeing and Airbus. It has no speed control whatsoever, ie it will indicate speed restrictions and use them for the path calculations, but not deviate from the pure VNAV path in order to match the speed. So you need to intervene quite a bit. That’s realistic.

also on climb VNAV will show as magenta FLCH (!) on the PFD and on descent as PATH. Especially FLCH showing can be confusing and making it seem as it wasn’t working 

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2 hours ago, Fiorentoni said:

I despise FSS (still bought it years ago because I wanted an ejet) but the LNAV/VNAV is surprisingly good. Bugged and early access, yes, but far better than I expected them to be able to.

keep in mind the real VNAV is different from your Boeing and Airbus. It has no speed control whatsoever, ie it will indicate speed restrictions and use them for the path calculations, but not deviate from the pure VNAV path in order to match the speed. So you need to intervene quite a bit. That’s realistic.

also on climb VNAV will show as magenta FLCH (!) on the PFD and on descent as PATH. Especially FLCH showing can be confusing and making it seem as it wasn’t working 

Thank you for the info...   it helped me already.   I just did a flight from LIRN Naples to LFMN Nice and it was a really pleasant flight....   it is so much bettter than before the update,  I did have to intervene at some stages and experiment a bit with autothrottle etc but it was ok and the plane didnt go crazy, in fact seemed kinda stable,  I'm sure with a few more flights learning the anomalies things will be even better......  

Thanks FSS for continuing with this , the final product is now in sight...

 

 

PS -   I had problems after installing it at first... it didnt install properly and some things werent there or didnt work  -  if the VNAV  button doesnt move when u click it then you need to sort out the installation.

I am on the Aerosoft  App and I found I had to search my PC for any installs  (various locations)  and delete them all also ORBX Remote folder caused problems for me  (maybe becos of Dynamic Links etc). 

Reinstall fresh .

 

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I am a big fan of the EJets, so I bought the now vnav capable E190/195 combo....

...and instantly regretted my purchase. 

Then I realized that I simply didn't know what I was doing and had failed to understand the peculiar auto flight logic of the Embraers. 

After three unsuccesful attempts to keep this plane in the air, I dug into the manuals and watched videos by folks who knew what they were doing. 

I now find the experimental version quite enjoyable to fly. Vnav works. Yes, it has some quirks, etc. 

The only thing I can't figure out is how to import simbrief flight plans. The "old" way as outlined in this video from FSS

FSS EJets Simbrief Import

doesn't seem to work anymore. 

I for one am really enjoying this aircraft. Making a flight from KSLC to KLIT right now and having a ball. Yes, the Experimental version has quirks, but its fun to fly, and I appreciate the developers admitting they bit off more than they could chew, not folding the tents, and continuing to try to salvage their reputation.

Happy Holidays everyone!!!!

BAT

35 minutes ago, Jaxsimmer said:

I appreciate the developers admitting they bit off more than they could chew, not folding the tents, and continuing to try to salvage their reputation.

I personally would prefer they do that without trying to entice further people to sink money into an unfinished product by releasing an experimental version.

1 hour ago, Ricardo41 said:

I am a big fan of the EJets, so I bought the now vnav capable E190/195 combo....

...and instantly regretted my purchase. 

Then I realized that I simply didn't know what I was doing and had failed to understand the peculiar auto flight logic of the Embraers. 

After three unsuccesful attempts to keep this plane in the air, I dug into the manuals and watched videos by folks who knew what they were doing. 

I now find the experimental version quite enjoyable to fly. Vnav works. Yes, it has some quirks, etc. 

The only thing I can't figure out is how to import simbrief flight plans. The "old" way as outlined in this video from FSS

FSS EJets Simbrief Import

doesn't seem to work anymore. 

i only discovered it while watching the stream of chewwy

 

In the MCDU, go to NAV → DATALINK → ADDRESS → FLIGHTPLAN and enter your SimBrief username.

22 hours ago, simsuper80 said:

Chewwy is still active? Didn't know 

He streams at least 2 times a week, depending on work and such. Sometimes he gets a full week.

He’s also been European community manager for MSFS for the last 2-3 years.

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8 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

I am a big fan of the EJets, so I bought the now vnav capable E190/195 combo....

...and instantly regretted my purchase. 

Then I realized that I simply didn't know what I was doing and had failed to understand the peculiar auto flight logic of the Embraers. 

After three unsuccesful attempts to keep this plane in the air, I dug into the manuals and watched videos by folks who knew what they were doing. 

I now find the experimental version quite enjoyable to fly. Vnav works. Yes, it has some quirks, etc. 

The only thing I can't figure out is how to import simbrief flight plans. The "old" way as outlined in this video from FSS

FSS EJets Simbrief Import

doesn't seem to work anymore. 

my understanding is for the experimental versions to "not" do the simbrief import as its not fully implemented correctly and you'll experience issues with it so for now, enter your flight plans manually 

Any help please?

I too liked the E-jets in 2020 but missed VNAV. So  I was pleased to see it now supposedly works in 2024. I just installed the Experimental version into 2024 and already loaded and then rebooted the sim.

I just spawned at an airport for a flight and switched everything on whilst performing a start up at the gate on GPU. I calibrated my throttle and imported a Simbrief flightplan, which seemed all fine. 

However, the only thing that refused to work was the Honeywell FMCs. What ever I did they remained blank and inactive. I tried spawning on a runway ready for take off and what ever I did, the FMCs remained blank. My understanding is once you power up the plane the FMCs should come on automatically.

Since FSS have refused to provide support for this version, Avsim is the only place I can go to. Has anyone else had this problem, or is it something I've been doing wrong?

Thanks for any help and much appreciated if anyone can.

I had that FMC issue along with the issue of my green activation confirmation box staying in front of the pilot view,

I read elsewhere to try uninstalling the freighter variant, this solved my issues.  I’m not sure if it was an issue with the freighter itself or just that I had two different versions of the ejet family installed at the same time, but it worked.

Dave

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21 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

The only thing I can't figure out is how to import simbrief flight plans.

I haven't been able to try this in the Experimental version 0.10.27, but this worked previously.

From the FSS Documentation Hub:

  • Direct route import into the MCDU is possible via 2 ways:

World Map menu

  1. Export your flightplan as msfs flightplan file (.FLT) (i.e. Simbrief, SimtoolkitPro, etc.).

  2. In MSFS World Map menu import your flightplan file (LOAD/SAVE->LOAD FROM THIS PC).

  3. The route will automatically be added to the E-Jets MCDU upon flight initialization.

Simbrief MCDU import

  1. Create a flightplan in Simbrief.

  2. Start your flight at the correct departure airport. It will automatically be inserted as origin in the MCDU RTE page.

  3. On RTE page enter the destination and flight ID matching with your simbrief flightplan. The flight ID in simbrief is called Flight Number and can be found in the OFP. It is not the callsign!

  4. Click on SEND (LSK L4) and wait until you see the (SENT) promt indicating your flightplan got fetched correctly. If not, the scratchpad will show you the reason.

  5. Click on DLK FPL to open the datalink flightplan list. You should now see the fetched flight plan.

  6. Click on APPLY ACTIVE to insert the flightplan route into MCDU. Remember that it will not import any departure or arrival route, only the enroute waypoints.

-J

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22 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

Then I realized that I simply didn't know what I was doing and had failed to understand the peculiar auto flight logic of the Embraers. 

After three unsuccesful attempts to keep this plane in the air, I dug into the manuals and watched videos by folks who knew what they were doing. 

I now find the experimental version quite enjoyable to fly. Vnav works. Yes, it has some quirks, etc. 

For those who had the old Wilco/Feelthere E190, how does the FSS compare with this one? I had reinstalled FSX just to fly planes like this one.

Best regards,
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