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Microsoft Famous Flyer 13: Northrop T-38A Talon

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  • Well…..As an owner of the new and simply superb infinity T38 and a long term owner of the milviz T38A in P3D ( missed out on the milviz T38C ggggrrr)….. I signed up for the free trial, flew one c

  • That’s interesting, I’ve been flying along the Florida coast line between Tyndall and Elgin in the infinity T38s all week recreating a flight I  watched on YouTube. 2500ft and 300kts. To maintain

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    I just did back to back flights in both the AD and BB versions. Both were less than 20mins each, so take this with a few grains of salt 😁 Graphics and sounds go solidly to the BB version, particu

Guess they couldn't get permission to use the NASA logo

I wonder what took her so long!

Nice to have a free trial though. 

KEDW here I come.  

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Looking forward to a T-38 comparison!

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A personal favorite as I’ve got 3.0 hours Stick Time (two flights, USAF incentive rides) as pilot in one of these.  Never had a ride like this in a Grumman Chetah!

YMMV. TANSTAAFL. Blue skies,

-B

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3 hours ago, St Mawgan said:

KEDW here I come.

Wise choice of testing venue, if I had multiplayer turned on I’d probably be chasing you around the circuit.

787 captain.  

Previously 24 years on 747-400.Technical advisor on PMDG 747 legacy versions QOTS 1 , FS9 and Aerowinx PS1. 

Well…..As an owner of the new and simply superb infinity T38 and a long term owner of the milviz T38A in P3D ( missed out on the milviz T38C ggggrrr)…..

I signed up for the free trial, flew one circuit at KEDW made a full stop landing, applied the brakes and exited the aircraft, promptly returned to the marketplace and hit the buy button.

A one circuit review, probably more polished than the infinity T38A in terms of cockpit graphics and sounds, although the infinity machine is earmarked for constant improvements I believe so not really fair comparison as it’s still being worked on.

Flight model wise, the blackbird T38A feels much more spritely, sadly I’m not qualified to comment on which is more realistic.

The BB T38A has lost that rock and roll with the wing tips stalling which some ex T38 guys here have said was too exaggerated in the P3D version.

I’m using a motion rig and when I light the burners I get a real shove in the back which I just know I’m never going to get tired of  😁

My advice would be, don’t choose have both, the BB for the A version and the Infinity for the C version.

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787 captain.  

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That’s interesting, I’ve been flying along the Florida coast line between Tyndall and Elgin in the infinity T38s all week recreating a flight I  watched on YouTube. 2500ft and 300kts.

To maintain 300kts in the infinity T38A and C requires 63-64% on the engines , just tried the same flight in the BB T38A and that required 85% , a big difference, and 85% seems a little high to me.

As the infinity T38 has input from current T38 pilots I was going to give the nod to that aircraft as having the more accurate pitch power settings. However after joining the ranks of YouTube test pilots and watching the clip again, what do you know, a T38A 2500ft 300kts…85% on the engines!, spot on for Blackbird.🐦 

787 captain.  

Previously 24 years on 747-400.Technical advisor on PMDG 747 legacy versions QOTS 1 , FS9 and Aerowinx PS1. 

2 hours ago, jon b said:

That’s interesting, I’ve been flying along the Florida coast line between Tyndall and Elgin in the infinity T38s all week recreating a flight I  watched on YouTube. 2500ft and 300kts.

To maintain 300kts in the infinity T38A and C requires 63-64% on the engines , just tried the same flight in the BB T38A and that required 85% , a big difference, and 85% seems a little high to me.

As the infinity T38 has input from current T38 pilots I was going to give the nod to that aircraft as having the more accurate pitch power settings. However after joining the ranks of YouTube test pilots and watching the clip again, what do you know, a T38A 2500ft 300kts…85% on the engines!, spot on for Blackbird.🐦 

Yup, 85% is about right for 300 KIAS flying up initial for an overhead pattern.  63% is way too low.

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jus a quick question - do you have to buy it from the FS store or can you get it direct from BB?

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16 minutes ago, Rattso said:

jus a quick question - do you have to buy it from the FS store or can you get it direct from BB?

It's a Microsoft products built by Blackbird so MS determine where it will be sold, what updates it will get etc.

Hello. Does it have autopilot? Thanks

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3 hours ago, History said:

Hello. Does it have autopilot? Thanks

A T-38 with an autopilot??  Bite thy tongue!!  🙃

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TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

So, I've only got a couple of hours left of my free trial and I'm 50/50 about keeping her.

I don't like the neutered liveries or the, to me overdone and very distracting effects on the canopy glass - both of which can be addressed by a good re-painter I know.

I enjoy flying her until she misbehaves and when she does I do wonder how realistic the flight model actually is and if the Just Flight Hawk is more accurate to this type of aircraft or just easier and more forgiving.  

The good news is, she isn't expensive and can be rented so I don't have to make a final decision today. At the moment she's in the 'I'm not sure' category. 

 

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