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Cockpit in the Palm of YOUR Hands? ECHO Aviation Controller

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I want one. Seems perfect for when you just want to fly, without arranging/organizing a ton of peripherals.....

 

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Great video. Never knew something like this existed. Wonder where in Canada it can be bought.

Isn't it from the same company that took lots of pre-orders and never delivered the product, then kinda offered refunds, then went out of business, then had a public argument amongst the owners, then came back in business?

I have owned one of these for about 3 weeks. Like a lot of you I have a dedicated rig with rudder pedals, honeycomb bravo with custom throttles, MOZA AB9, and a bunch of winwing stuff. However my rig is in a seperate room and flight sim is not a quick hobby, so I do feel like im a little estranged from my family when simming. I own a gaming laptop so I decided to try this and I love it.

Its not perfect, the hat switch should be on the other side and the triggers are just buttons which makes braking a chore I also wish it had force feedback. The rudders on the back and the gear parking brake and flaps on the bottom are super intuitive. I only fly the airliners but I have had a lot of time in all of them. It has gotten a ton of use and its super easy to just start of flight sim and do a quick flight from the comfort of my living room. To be honest I have only touched my rig twice since getting it. Im sure that will change once the newness has worn off but if you have a similar situation to mine this is 100% worth a buy imo.

There is another similar controller in the works by Meridian GMT (old honeycomb founders news company) and that looks like it might even be better, but who knows if and when it will come out. 

22 hours ago, Victors Valiant said:

However my rig is in a seperate room and flight sim is not a quick hobby, so I do feel like im a little estranged from my family when simming. I own a gaming laptop so I decided to try this and I love it.

Even after 20+ years of marriage, my wife still likes hanging out with me 💘. And somehow she always asks for company right around the time i want to sit down and fly 🤣.

So, I think i'm gonna get one of these and a half decent gaming laptop for whenever it's movie night.

And even already owning a ThrustMaster Warthog HOTAS, this would absolutely complement that setup for all types of flying when I am at the desktop. 🙂 

Edited by UrgentSiesta

I purchased one when it first cane out and I like it for using the flight simulator on my laptop.  The biggest issue that I had with it is that the Honeycomb profiles did not work when release and I had to find a GA profile that was created by another user.   Hopefully this is now fixed, otherwise you need to find an alternative to manually setup the control and if I wanted to do this I would just use my Xbox controller without the nice features of the Echo.

 

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Looks nice, but now I'm a bit undecided between this one and the Yawman Arrow.

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As a gamepad user, this device seems nice. If FS24 career mode ever gets fixed, I'd consider getting one of these.

  • 1 month later...

I too have a full setup with rudder pedals, throttle quadrant and yoke, but since I also use my computer for work and productivity, I have to clear the peripherals from the desk after each flight and then set everything up again the next time. This gets tedious when you only have time for a short flight since the preparations plus cleanup can take almost as long as the flight itself.

I've been experimenting with using an Xbox One controller, but obviously the lack of axes is a big problem.

How is the sensitivity of the thumb stick on the Echo in use? How well do the rudder "pedals" work?

Also, does it get annoying that the hat switch and thumb stick are on the same side? This seems like a design flaw to me, since it means you have to let go of the stick when you need to look around the cockpit. The Yawman doesn't seem to have this problem, but the Echo certainly looks more attractive and feature rich.

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  • 3 weeks later...

I received my Echo controller a few days ago.
The thumb stick is similar to a standard Xbox controller, which means it's very sensitive at the default settings. You will have to tweak it until you find a balance between sensitivity and non-linearity that feels good to you. Same with the rudder "pedals". It doesn't compare to a proper yoke or flight stick of course, but it's definitely usable with some practice.

The layout of the levers, switches etc. feels surprisingly intuitive, but the placement of the hat switch is indeed not ideal. If you want to look around without letting go of the stick, you either have to contort your left index finger, or awkwardly reach over with your right thumb. I assigned the two shoulder buttons on either side to look left and right, which works when you just want to glance left or right in the pattern for example. You could also just grab the mouse while holding the controller with your left hand I guess, or use VR/TrackIR.
Other than that, it would have been nice with analog triggers for your toe brakes, especially with tail draggers which are prone to tipping over. Personally I would also have preferred just 3 throttle levers with a bit more spacing. It's easy to move the wrong lever if you aren't looking due to how closely spaced they are.

However those are minor issues which you mostly get used to after a few hours. I think they did a good job given the price and size of this thing.

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  • 2 weeks later...
On 4/8/2026 at 6:02 AM, JimmiG said:

I received my Echo controller a few days ago.
The thumb stick is similar to a standard Xbox controller, which means it's very sensitive at the default settings. You will have to tweak it until you find a balance between sensitivity and non-linearity that feels good to you. Same with the rudder "pedals". It doesn't compare to a proper yoke or flight stick of course, but it's definitely usable with some practice.

The layout of the levers, switches etc. feels surprisingly intuitive, but the placement of the hat switch is indeed not ideal. If you want to look around without letting go of the stick, you either have to contort your left index finger, or awkwardly reach over with your right thumb. I assigned the two shoulder buttons on either side to look left and right, which works when you just want to glance left or right in the pattern for example. You could also just grab the mouse while holding the controller with your left hand I guess, or use VR/TrackIR.
Other than that, it would have been nice with analog triggers for your toe brakes, especially with tail draggers which are prone to tipping over. Personally I would also have preferred just 3 throttle levers with a bit more spacing. It's easy to move the wrong lever if you aren't looking due to how closely spaced they are.

However those are minor issues which you mostly get used to after a few hours. I think they did a good job given the price and size of this thing.

@JimmiG

Like this?  Hat on the right side...

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I believe this is the prototype version. It does have the advantage that you can use the hat switch and thumbstick at the same time, but to be honest the ergonomics look worse overall, the production version looks more refined and ergonomic.

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