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-B

• ➕ ADDED - [P3D] Oxygen test functionality
• ➕ ADDED - [MSFS/FS24] Option to disable automatic window shades
• ➕ ADDED - Normalized yoke position variable exports for use with third party hardware
• ➕ ADDED - [MSFS/FS24] Engine wobble animation
• ➕ ADDED - [MSFS/FS24] Option to view SimBrief OFP
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Throttle boost bar animation
• 🔧 FIXED - [FS24] Erroneous decals in the low poly cabin
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] ER tanks not having appropriate in-sim fuel weight/capacity
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Hole in bottom of engine
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Blocky weather radar display
• 🔧 FIXED - Missing EMER PWR TEST behavior
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] RH wiper sound node position
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Blurriness on various cockpit textures by removing mipmaps
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Blurry knob textures with high VRAM
• 🔧 FIXED - [FS24] Gaps in left and right entry door seals
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Flickering cockpit window glass in exterior view
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Holes in engine #2 pylon
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Missing NLG door decals on F
• 🔧 FIXED - Certain failures triggering for XS users even when failures are disabled
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Lights disappearing when zooming out
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Nose gear LOD issue
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] LH outboard flap fairing alignment
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Checklist not properly highlighting galley bus buttons
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Excessive flap and slat drag
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] VR cursor depth
• 🔧 FIXED - Overly conservative initial climb performance prediction
• 🔧 FIXED - Lights being incorrectly tied to battery bus
• 🔧 FIXED - In-cockpit anti-ice controls not properly interfacing with in-sim anti-ice behavior
• 🔧 FIXED - [P3D] Shiny standby gauges
• 🔧 FIXED - [P3D] Oxygen quantity showing 0
• 🔧 FIXED - [P3D] SMOKE/ELEC knob positions
• 🔧 FIXED - [P3D] Missing forward pax window glass
• 🔧 FIXED - Missing CABIN BUS SW OFF alert
• 🔧 FIXED - Cargo door test behavior
• 🔧 FIXED - Performance loss caused by long routes/step climbs
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Weather radar displaying terrain at edges under certain conditions
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Polygonal shape of radar display edges
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Poor WXR gain knob behavior
• 🔧 FIXED - Incorrect anti-ice button action type when auto mode is enabled
• 🔧 FIXED - [P3D] Inability to revert to manual anti-ice mode when automatic setting is on
• 🔧 FIXED - [FS24] Gaps in all entry doors
• 🔧 FIXED - Center gear contact point not being properly deployed
• 🔧 FIXED - Brake temps appearing above 936c
• 🔧 FIXED - G/A buttons not activating G/A page on MCDU
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Confusing tooltip labeling on SMOKE/ELEC switch
• 🔧 FIXED - XPNDR mode not setting MODE C transponder state
• 🔧 FIXED - Oxygen quantity pointing at zero
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Several potential EFB crashes when runway is invalid
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] EFB not properly loading scroll acceleration setting
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] EFB showing PG, PH, and RO airports in hPA
• 🔧 FIXED - Bus tie relays closing with EXT PWR and APU PWR active
• 🔧 FIXED - T/P showing as flyover
• 🔧 FIXED - Disarming doors not triggering appropriate alerts
• 🔧 FIXED - Landing gear doors retracting with manual gear extension
• 🔧 FIXED - Misaligned/overlapping MCDU text
• 🔧 FIXED - Radio stack setting radio volume backward/inverted
• 🔧 FIXED - Incorrect transponder breaker/failure behavior
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Flap damage/blowout speeds
• 🔧 FIXED - [XS] QR code not having white border
• 🔧 FIXED - Altitude callout being played late when happening in rapid succession
• 🔧 FIXED - Possibility for MINIMUMS and APPROACHING MINIMUMS callout to repeat
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] GSX lav, GPU, fuel, and water positions
• 🔧 FIXED - Incorrect FPA track behavior/display
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Thunderstorm light switch tooltip being reversed
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Lack of reverse thrust sound on PWs
• 🔧 FIXED - [FS24] Crash detection when opening doors
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Normal map artifacts near MLG door
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Various minor issues with the house livery
• 🔧 FIXED - OBS IDENT, MAINT INTPH, PA ON, and MIC lights coming on with annunciator test
• 🔧 FIXED - VHF readouts showing blank during annunciator test
• 🔧 FIXED - EDP FAULT lights not coming on during preflight
• 🔧 FIXED - Scenario that could cause hydraulic flowlines not to display properly right away
• 🔧 FIXED - Incorrect alignment of trim indicator/green band on SD
• 🔧 FIXED - Yaw damper FAIL light not appearing when channel fails on only one FCC
• 🔧 FIXED - HYD flow lines showing green when unpressurized
• 🔧 FIXED - Main entry doors opening unrealistically fast
• 🔧 FIXED - Landing lights moving without power
• 🔧 FIXED - Cabin lighting staying on when power is lost
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Incorrect PW reverse thrust
• 🔧 FIXED - Displays starting up instantly
• 🔧 FIXED - Incorrect scrolling behavior on DIR INTC page
• 🔧 FIXED - Possible crash on DIR INTC page
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] EFB not properly restoring after closing shades/window
• 🔧 FIXED - Inability to manually open/close OUTFLO on ground
• 🔧 FIXED - PFD showing DME when ILS does not have it
• 🔧 FIXED - Condition allowing for erroneous flight plan updates while calculation is in progress
• 🔧 FIXED - Edge case crash from alternate leg modification wrongly comparing against primary legs
• 🔧 FIXED - Main cargo door resting too high in CANOPY mode
• 🔧 FIXED - Inaccurate physical throttle position indicator on PWs
• 🔧 FIXED - Certain failures (like tire failures) being triggered for non-XS users
• 🔧 FIXED - LSAS splitting elevator when autopilot is active
• 🔧 FIXED - Inability to center/set heading via HDG knob on ground
• 🔧 FIXED - [Installer] Docs/XS install no longer creates erroneous installation.ini
• 🔧 FIXED - Various possible crashes in flight plan code
• 🔧 FIXED - Inability to DIR TO from leg
• 🔧 FIXED - Alternate landing gear extension happening too quickly
• 🔧 FIXED - Edge case crash when entering cruise altitude for the first time while above it
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] EFB not converting units properly when importing Simbrief flight plan
• 🔧 FIXED - FCC flight control sensor failure not being resettable
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Patched gaps on the ceiling near the aft galley
• 🔧 FIXED - Incorrect nose gear animation with emergency gear deployment
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Disabled arrival perf calculation when re-selecting dry conditions
• 🔧 FIXED - Outdated magnetic declination database causing incorrect bearing calculations
• 🔧 FIXED - Derates not being properly applied under some conditions
• 🔧 FIXED - Inability to delete/clear airways/airway points during entry
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Excessive skidding while taxiing
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Patched gaps on the floor near the aft galley
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Arrival perf default reverse thrust option not matching in-code value
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Removed redundant oxygen masks in business class
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Exit door decals draw order
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Extruded edges to occlude sky on door 2,3,4
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Patched gaps on the floor near the forward entry doors
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Missing rivets on engines
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Aileron and spoiler animation in lower LODs
• 🔧 FIXED - WXR being on in default panel states
• 🔧 FIXED - PFD showing TRACK along with ND
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Hole in back of PW engine cone
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Slat/flap drag
• 🔧 FIXED - Incorrect VOR to VOR capture/tracking behavior
• 🔧 FIXED - VOR capture occurring prematurely
• 🔧 FIXED - STANDBY NAV/RAD behavior
• 🔧 FIXED - Outboard elevators drooping
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Missing screws on RH inboard slat
• 🔧 FIXED - Unrealistically fast brake cooling
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] RH inboard slat smoothing
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Flickering EFB cursor
• 🔧 FIXED - Heading not returning to dashed state in NAV mode after edit
• 🔧 FIXED - [MSFS/FS24] Various LOD1+ tagging issues
• 🔧 FIXED - Missing space before flex temp on EAD
• 🔧 FIXED - [FS24] Cabin windows flickering on exterior
• 🔧 FIXED - [FS24] Cockpit windows flickering on exterior when zoomed in
• 🔧 FIXED - APU start requirements being based on ADC readings instead of physical conditions
• ✏️ CHANGED - [MSFS/FS24] Minor PW sound improvements
• ✏️ CHANGED - Made scroll acceleration on BARO minimums faster
• ✏️ CHANGED - [MSFS/FS24] Ice detection now reads from simulator ice variable
• ✏️ CHANGED - [P3D] Optimized some texture sizes
• ✏️ CHANGED - [FS24] Changed day and night multipliers for emissives
• ✏️ CHANGED - [MSFS/FS24] Adjusted pack sound volume to better match new engine mixes
• ✏️ CHANGED - Engine start override no longer prevents FADEC control once engine is running
• ✏️ CHANGED - Startup FADEC lockout is now cancelled by commanding >5% throttle
• ✏️ CHANGED - Engine stop override is now cancelled at <1% N2 instead of 0
• ✏️ CHANGED - [MSFS/FS24] Improved electrical whine sound
• ✏️ CHANGED - Very high fuel loads now target a further aft CG
• ✏️ CHANGED - [MSFS/FS24] Removed drone collision from interior model
• ✏️ CHANGED - [MSFS/FS24] Reduced sound memory usage
• ✏️ CHANGED - [MSFS/FS24] General internal GE sound improvements
• ✏️ CHANGED - Pause at TOD now occurs 10nm before T/D
• ✏️ CHANGED - [Installer] Installer now detects and fixes long paths problem by itself
• ✏️ CHANGED - [MSFS/FS24] Input boxes now automatically unfocus after 5 seconds of inactivity
• ✏️ CHANGED - Restoring EFB now closes window and/or stows shades and re-appears
• ✏️ CHANGED - C&D state no longer commands entry door open
• ✏️ CHANGED - Reduced brake heating rate by ~20%
• ✏️ CHANGED - Panel state auto-save now occurs every 15 minutes
• ✏️ CHANGED - [MSFS/FS24] Rebaked MANPADS (AAQ224) AO map to improve visual consistency
• ✏️ CHANGED - [MSFS/FS24] Slowed down cockpit door animation

Edited February 25Feb 25 by btacon

I'm very interrested by this aircraft in the future.

I hold the purchase many time because I read many critics about the quality.

How it is now since the upgrade patch? Do you guys recommand it?

Thanks

1 hour ago, sdirand said:

I'm very interrested by this aircraft in the future.

I hold the purchase many time because I read many critics about the quality.

How it is now since the upgrade patch? Do you guys recommand it?

Thanks

I would recommend it before the patch but this patch essentially resolves all the issues I had with it. 

I especially liked on the stream during the Q&A I requested specific things and the dev said they'd look into it. Then here I see those specific requests in the changelog.

One of the best Airliner Add ( older Style ) we could get - IMO ! 👍

cheers 😉

2 hours ago, sdirand said:

I'm very interrested by this aircraft in the future.

I hold the purchase many time because I read many critics about the quality.

How it is now since the upgrade patch? Do you guys recommand it?

Thanks

Recommend fully, getting better and better

I fly it in preference to the PMDG 737's. Grittier, old school.

T45

Other than the fact that it's ground services come with no stair vehicles (so you must always use a gate jetway) I love the MD-11.   Although my approaches are appalling!  Once the AP is off, it is so difficult to keep it on the LOC and GS. Power changes have a huge delay, followed by a huge change in pitch (severe ballooning or diving) and I keep fighting the aircraft down onto the ground.   

I know the MD-11 was notoriously 'not-naturally-stable' but it does feel very wallowy and super slow to react to any control surface or power changes. I thought LSAS was suppsed to make it feel like a conventional jet on approach.

I've personally gotten around this frustration be leaving the AP in until 200' 😄  The flare and touchdown is perfect and easy.  It's just the ILS tracking from 1000' or so that is a real challenge.

Edited February 25Feb 25 by JYW

When will they make the touch effect on the RWY?

12 minutes ago, Treetops45 said:

I fly it in preference to the PMDG 737's. Grittier, old school

Old school?

I would say that in plenty of areas, the MD-11 automation exceeds  the 737NG  (which is understandable due to commonality requirement)

26 minutes ago, JYW said:

I thought LSAS was suppsed to make it feel like a conventional jet on approach.

Not sure conventional is the right word for it. But as you alluded to, It's there to reduce unwanted pitch oscillations.

AFAIK, LSAS is attitude biased, not energy. So even if you bleed off speed, attitude will be maintained (or at least that is the object it will try to achieve) via elevator commands primarily, and with auto pitch trim to ensure elevators always have 5 degree authority. 
LSAS will lose authority when >2lbs of force is applied on the control column, and I know TFDI had issues with this modelling in earlier versions.

On my end, I think it flies very stable and precise, much better than at release.

The MD-11 logic and MCDU is much closer to an Airbus than a Boeing.

The second point in the list is the most important one.

This one is next on the purchase list. I just need to get up to speed on the 777F first. 

2 hours ago, JYW said:

Other than the fact that it's ground services come with no stair vehicles (so you must always use a gate jetway) I love the MD-11.   Although my approaches are appalling!  Once the AP is off, it is so difficult to keep it on the LOC and GS. Power changes have a huge delay, followed by a huge change in pitch (severe ballooning or diving) and I keep fighting the aircraft down onto the ground.   

I know the MD-11 was notoriously 'not-naturally-stable' but it does feel very wallowy and super slow to react to any control surface or power changes. I thought LSAS was suppsed to make it feel like a conventional jet on approach.

I've personally gotten around this frustration be leaving the AP in until 200' 😄  The flare and touchdown is perfect and easy.  It's just the ILS tracking from 1000' or so that is a real challenge.

Yeah, with the MD11 and the DC10, you have to anticipate and stay ahead of the jet. For speed changes, we used two techniques in the DC10.

1. 10% of gross weight + 23 for approach. So for 400K lbs, 40+23 = 63% N1 on a 3.0 slope flaps 35. This puts you very close to approach speed with minor adjustments.
2. Throttle Knob widths for speed changes. From the front to the back of a throttle head is the knob width. So you make changes that way based on the rate of speed change. If your approach speed is slowly decaying, you move all three half a knob width forward and wait. If the rate is a little faster than slowly decaying, you will use a full knob width on all three. So, you get the point. One last thing for the knob width technique is to take half of that input out once the jet has corrected. If you used a full knob width to correct, once back at speed, take half back out. The knob width technique keeps you from yo yoing the throttles with the slow reactance to thrust changes. The heavier she is, the less reactive she is. You perfect this technique during air refueling in the KC10. 

With those speed techniques, keep in mind these jets behave as three different types of aircraft over the weight ranges. The heavy, middle weight and light weight. For example, at heavier landing weights, you pull power earlier because of the slow reactance. When landing at light weights, you keep that power in longer because if you pull it early, it will slow quickly and drop into the runway. I'll give that technique later.

For control inputs, just remember to use small inputs. You have to anticipate and recognize trends early. So as soon as you see you are getting high or low, make a small correction then. Being ahead and atop of those things will keep you stable and you won't have PIO and get pitchy. You don't have to be aggressive, just make that small input and let her gently correct back while visualizing where she will be once corrected. Gentle corrections leads to gentle captures. 

You appear to have nailed the landings😁. The technique I mentioned for landing, we used in the DC10. We used 10% of our gross weight for flaring. So, 400K lbs = flare starting at 40ft with a gentle power pull. This technique saves you in those three landing weight tiers you will see. You will notice the heavier you are, the earlier the flare starts and the lighter you are, the later the flare starts. That and a gentle power pull will put you down 1200 to 1300 ft down the runway.  

 

This MD-11 thing is such a pleasure to fly. Rusty old beast with all its quirks. Strange love.

14 minutes ago, Nuno Pinto said:

This MD-11 thing is such a pleasure to fly. Rusty old beast with all its quirks. Strange love.

Like most of you, I own just about every payware tubeliner there is out there and ever since the new version came out for this, it is a struggle to tear my self away from this one to fly another.... There is just something about it....