April 6Apr 6 8 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said: My guy, it’s better to remain silent and be thought [uninformed] than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt. Best to keep quiet yourself since you can't accept anything or prove. I love the insults though keep going.
April 6Apr 6 I don't like 2024, and I can't do anything about it. For example, when I watch replays, I'm annoyed by the random smoke from the landing gear during landing. I periodically launch 2024, but then immediately revert to 2020. And yes, at the beginning of the discussion, someone said it was stupid to ask for something for 2004 in 2009, so I flew 2004 until 2018.
April 6Apr 6 14 minutes ago, carlanthony24 said: Best to keep quiet yourself since you can't accept anything or prove. I love the insults though keep going. As I’ve said elsewhere, I earn my paycheck in the development biz. So my comments to you, and similar to those from several others here, aren’t “insults”, they’re observations. Edited April 6Apr 6 by UrgentSiesta
April 7Apr 7 Come on lads, as flight simmers, we have a lot more in common than we have apart 😎 Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
April 7Apr 7 Yeah, let's all agree that PMDG rehashed stuff..got caught out..then had to do something to actually fix it otherwise they'd lose customers. Also, I love the always overused argument - I'm in the biz so I know and you don't. LOL
April 7Apr 7 3 hours ago, Harry_K said: let's all agree that PMDG rehashed stuff. Unless we're shown some evidence, let's not.... So much speculation, so little in the way of facts. John Wiesenfeld KPBI | FAA PPL/SEL/IFR in a galaxy long ago and far away | VATSIM PILOT P2 i7-11700K, 32 GB DDR4 3.6 GHz, MSI RTX 3070ti, Dell 4K monitor
April 7Apr 7 On 4/6/2026 at 11:55 AM, carlanthony24 said: Where's the evidence the others copy and pasted we don't have that. According to various sites they were built specifically for MSFS from the ground up. You seem to love PMDG but hate facts when pointed out and result to some sort of insult. We are specifically talking about MSFS and how PMDG used old code to cut corners compared to others. Just because MSFS 2024 is a "new" sim, that does not mean that developers can (or should) re-write every bit of code "from the ground up". The data structures and classes that define the internal operations of something like the FMS take a long development time to test and optimize, and will almost certainly be re-used, because a new base sim platform does not automagically mean that there will somehow be a better way to implement those functions. For instance, the mathematical halversine formula, which is used to calculate the great circle distance between two sets of LAT/LON coordinates is over 225 years old, and is still used in every real world and flight sim FMS and GPS navigator today. The "ground up" rewrites will be for functionality that is new and specific to the MSFS 2024 SDK. Jim BarrettLicensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.
April 7Apr 7 1 hour ago, jrw4 said: Unless we're shown some evidence, let's not.... So much speculation, so little in the way of facts. Being the pilots on here have mentioned countless stuff It has been shown from them.
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April 8Apr 8 6 hours ago, jrw4 said: Unless we're shown some evidence, let's not.... So much speculation, so little in the way of facts. Plenty of evidence out there, but I am done with this now. It is is boring and you fan boys won't change your minds. So little ion the way of facts LOL. Keep your eyes closed and pay your money.
April 8Apr 8 5 hours ago, carlanthony24 said: Being the pilots on here have mentioned countless stuff It has been shown from them. I wouldn't bother trying to convince some folks here. Their condescending tone telling people how they should think when folks have clearly shown old code used over and over. Facts in front of everyone, yet somehow they feel like telling everyone it isn't real and they haven't seen anything. Let's not...LOL
April 8Apr 8 On 4/7/2026 at 12:51 AM, xsever said: If we could only stick to the title of the post 😭... nah its like this every time when a pmdg thread opens up I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
April 8Apr 8 8 hours ago, Harry_K said: folks have clearly shown old code used over and over. Why would you seemingly expect that all code should change, between sim versions, for the same aircraft? I mean, if something like the autothrottle sensing rate of 2.446 was correct in the P3D version, why would you expect it to be different in the MSFS2024 version? What's the obsession with "reused code" if the code is functional and correct? Sounds like you just want change for it's own sake. Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
April 8Apr 8 11 hours ago, Harry_K said: Their condescending tone telling people how they should think when folks have clearly shown old code used over and over. Facts in front of everyone, yet somehow they feel like telling everyone it isn't real and they haven't seen anything. Let's not...LOL I'm confused by this too. I'm pretty sure PMDG have said several times they use well established code for complex systems that have been developed over several years and several simulators. Is this a problem? I seem to recall several times RSR complaining that the de-bugging tools promised by Microsoft had not been developed in a timely manner. Is this the reason he is apparently the spawn of Beelzebub? Complaining about the shortcomings of the SDK has hardly been confined to PMDG...
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