7 hours ago, CFIJose said:

Is this going to be a free update?

Yes - For anyone who’s paid for the 2024 version, to be clear. 

3 hours ago, KaptenEk said:

why are they still selling titles for 2020? For me PMDG is dead as a supplier

Same reason they kept selling their Prepar3D line until 2024: because people were still buying them. 

But note that the P3D products weren’t receiving any updates during that entire time  

If you’re too cheap to pay a few bucks for a major rework/upgrade, then I’m sure PMDG doesn’t care about losing you as a customer. 

And please don’t bring up Fenix - sooner or later, Aamir is going to charge for a new version, so enjoy it while you can. 

2 hours ago, KaptenEk said:

PMDG have for the last three platforms had the same aircraft’s. And will surely have for the next 20 years also

Yeah because those are the aircraft so many people have wanted to buy!

Randazzo is a pragmatist, and a successful one. 

He'll adjust PMDG’s business model as necessary to continue that success. Just as we’re seeing with the 741, and whatever the other couple of unannounced aircraft in development are. 
 

“just can’t stand the horrible interface of 2024 and will never ever use it.”

oh, come ON, man…! It’s like the first 2 minutes of a flight - who cares?

You sound like all the Blackberry “experts” when the first iPhone came out.

Edited April 4Apr 4 by UrgentSiesta

2 hours ago, KaptenEk said:

Tell me, how many addons work with 2024? It is still the biggest word not allowed show ever in Flightsim history. Why do you like it so much? Just to post? How many years of Flightsim history do you have? I gladly sometimes fire up FSX to see damages, P3D to fly 787 and Dash 

You’re clinging bitterly to the past. Nearly all my 2020 addons are at least Compatible with 2024. 

And the ones that are Native are SO MUCH better than what was available in 2020. Really, across the board. 

I got started simming back in X-Plane 11, Prepar3D v4, and DCS World (So not too long ago, but long enough and broad enough that I’ve got fairly good perspective).

EVERY sim goes through good and bad periods. And AFAICT, EVERY one gets progressively better. 

2024 is the continuation of 2020, and is by any measure one of the most sophisticated flight simulators ever. 

But yeah, it’s not perfect by any means, and I still frequently fly in X-Plane and DCS, and from time to time in P3D for the small handful of superb addons there that still have no equal in any other sim. 

But I spend most of my time in DCS and MSFS 2024, because they’re overall the most satisfying sims at what they do. 

But you know what sim I NEVER fly anymore…?

yeah, MSFS 2020. Still installed - and getting dustier by the day.

Still a good sim, but it’s yesterdays news - no longer relevant. 

Edited April 4Apr 4 by UrgentSiesta

2 hours ago, KaptenEk said:

Tell me, how many addons work with 2024?

A majority of them. All the ones I own for 2020 have either been updated to work, or have native 2024 builds now.

A majority sceneries worked day one of 2024's release (I personally don't know of any that didn't).

Most aircraft addons had to be updated/rebuilt, and all the ones I own have been, some were even ready by day one or close to it, from devs Microsoft gave early SDK access to.

Edited April 4Apr 4 by Tuskin38

59 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

A majority of them. All the ones I own for 2020 have either been updated to work, or have native 2024 builds now.

A majority sceneries worked day one of 2024's release (I personally don't know of any that didn't).

Most aircraft addons had to be updated/rebuilt, and all the ones I own have been, some were even ready by day one or close to it, from devs Microsoft gave early SDK access to.

Which ones don’t by now?  
 

Unless it’s some Obscure one, what addons don’t work in 2024.  

I have a LOT of freeware addons.  I almost now have any many for 2024 as I did in 20.  I think I counted the number one on hand that didn't work or looked weird in 24.

There were some.quirks but many of the general aviation aircraft addons I used work on day 1 (okkk day 2 cause almost no one had a working 2024 on day 1 LOL).

I sometimes wonder if people are just afraid that because something says 2020 that it won't work in 24.  Yeah we had some weird things like the dynamic registration beging broken for a while.  But that seems to mostly work now.

3 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said:

Same reason they kept selling their Prepar3D line until 2024: because people were still buying them. 

But note that the P3D products weren’t receiving any updates during that entire time  

If you’re too cheap to pay a few bucks for a major rework/upgrade, then I’m sure PMDG doesn’t care about losing you as a customer. 

And please don’t bring up Fenix - sooner or later, Aamir is going to charge for a new version, so enjoy it while you can. 

A few bucks for a major rework yeah PMDG doesn't do that. You really just need to see past receipts. Fenix wise Aamir always stood by what Fenix stands for not ripping customers off so I very much doubt you will see any paid version becoming paid unless absolutely neccesary and guess what the community is fine with that.

Edited April 4Apr 4 by carlanthony24

the 777 updates for 2024 were free for 2020 owners.

So they're not nickel and diming every upgrade.

5 hours ago, JYW said:

 Look how many years we've been stuck with that god-awful EFB.  

I totally disagree. That EFB was a very close replica of what Boeing developed and is still available to many airlines and airlines' fleets as an option at the time of purchase. Our Boeing aircraft are equipped with EFBs, and we also carry tablets. Yes, many airlines use tablets that provide more information and offer greater memory capacity. I don't think that their replica was "God-awful EFB."

4 hours ago, KaptenEk said:

Tell me, how many addons work with 2024? 

I was the biggest supporter of sticking with v2020. I moved on after installing SU4. Everything looks better and most freeware airports that were made for v2020, work fine in v2024. It's the same for payware sceneries and airports. You'll love how easy it is to install. It takes up very little room, and performance is excellent. I'm in sim heaven!

37 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

the 777 updates for 2024 were free for 2020 owners.

So they're not nickel and diming every upgrade.

This was only because it came out 4-6 months before and didn't want to hold it back any further. You know they would of otherwise.

5 hours ago, KaptenEk said:

How many years of Flightsim history do you have?

22 years.

och du?

The rest of your comments don't warrant a response.

6 hours ago, JYW said:

The difference being that we'll have our hands on this beauty in 5 days, whereas iFly are painfully slow at releasing updates.  Look how many years we've been stuck with that god-awful EFB.  I do love what iFly are promising but I'm not holding my breath as they are so slow to release anything.

The iFly 737 Max for MSFS 2024 is still characterized as "Experimental". Are they still testing???

5 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

I made the mistake of buying their Boeing Biz Jet for MSFS 2020. The textures are abysmal. Basically, FSX quality. 

Maybe the BBJ interior was a little bland....but FSX quality?