Yesterday at 04:12 PM1 day Commercial Member Hello Captains,For the past several months, our team at ACE Solutions has been quietly working on what has become the most ambitious aviation project we've ever undertaken.Our goal was never to build "just another ATC addon."From day one, we wanted to create an environment where aviation feels alive.A place where IFR and VFR traffic coexist naturally, where aircraft can operate simultaneously in complex airspace, where parallel runway operations, go-arounds, realistic taxi routing, controller decision making, CPDLC communication, voice interaction, and text interaction all function as parts of the same ecosystem.During recent testing, we've successfully conducted complex multi-runway arrival scenarios involving large volumes of traffic while maintaining realistic separation, ground movement, and airport operations.One area we've focused on extensively is conversational flexibility.While large language models have opened exciting possibilities for ATC simulation, we believe realism requires more than restricting an AI to a predefined set of responses.Real-world controllers and pilots don't operate from a script.Our objective is not to build an AI that simply waits for the "correct phrase."Our objective is to build an AI that understands aviation.To support that vision, the project is being developed not only by software engineers and flight simulation enthusiasts, but also with ongoing feedback from active aviation professionals and commercial airline pilots.Aviation is ultimately about people.And over the last few weeks, we've had the privilege of speaking with individuals whose voices many long-time aviation enthusiasts would recognize immediately.That's all we're going to say about that... for now.We're approaching internal beta testing and, if everything continues according to plan, we'll begin sharing screenshots, videos, demonstrations, and technical deep-dives in the near future.There is still a lot of work ahead.But after months of development, testing, redesigning, debugging, arguing, redesigning again, and countless late nights, we finally feel comfortable saying:This is real and it's coming!And we're excited to start sharing it with the community very soon./Anil Anil Ardahanli Computer Science BsC :: Sindel Aviation (Niner Wings) PPL // CPL // IR // ME // ATP CEO & Co-Founder of ACE-Solutions https://ace-solutions.io
Yesterday at 04:46 PM1 day I appreciate that this is probably beyond the scope of your new software, but.......does it also improve the animation of the AI planes during taxi/departure/arrival? Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
Yesterday at 05:25 PM1 day Promises, promises 😊I'll pop back when there's something to demonstrate, beyond hyper-marketing terms and high tech terminology.I hope you understand that my point is not a general whine / negativity. Anyone can claim they have "made something really different" that doesn't involve the usual weaknesses that we see, in AI-based ATC programs like Say Intentions. The SI guys are hugely into hyper-marketing and have made similar promises (and their AI solution is not limited to LLM either). The reality is often strikingly different to the promises.So personally, I just don't rate a promotional post that says "we're making something really special... but that's all we're going to say about that right now" (Forest Gump ™). Everyone who is doing AI at the moment seems carried away with their own grandure, and are convinced that they've found a way to do something that no-one else has. Where are these jaw-dropping solutions? I just see lots of AI-mediocrity.As I said, I will view with enthusiasm when you have something to show us. Edited yesterday at 05:27 PM1 day by JYW Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
Yesterday at 05:36 PM1 day Agreed. When it's ready, post it here, show a video, let us download and play with it. I'm on both sides of this now - as a user plus someone developing an app(ffb-bridge, ffb-probe, not linking cause it's not relevant here, but just FYI in case you're interested). I know how tempting it is to really go hard on the teasers, but as a user.. I want to SEE and USE something (preferably free and privacy-respecting). Good luck with your app, I'm hoping it's good.. but please, do post something more of substance when it's actually ready. 9800X3d, 4090, 64 GB DDR5 6000 RAM, 4 TB NVME (2x2), 4K Ultra + Framegen
Yesterday at 05:44 PM1 day 1 hour ago, anilcougar said:Hello Captains,For the past several months, our team at ACE Solutions has been quietly working on what has become the most ambitious aviation project we've ever undertaken.Our goal was never to build "just another ATC addon."From day one, we wanted to create an environment where aviation feels alive.A place where IFR and VFR traffic coexist naturally, where aircraft can operate simultaneously in complex airspace, where parallel runway operations, go-arounds, realistic taxi routing, controller decision making, CPDLC communication, voice interaction, and text interaction all function as parts of the same ecosystem.During recent testing, we've successfully conducted complex multi-runway arrival scenarios involving large volumes of traffic while maintaining realistic separation, ground movement, and airport operations.One area we've focused on extensively is conversational flexibility.While large language models have opened exciting possibilities for ATC simulation, we believe realism requires more than restricting an AI to a predefined set of responses.Real-world controllers and pilots don't operate from a script.Our objective is not to build an AI that simply waits for the "correct phrase."Our objective is to build an AI that understands aviation.To support that vision, the project is being developed not only by software engineers and flight simulation enthusiasts, but also with ongoing feedback from active aviation professionals and commercial airline pilots.Aviation is ultimately about people.And over the last few weeks, we've had the privilege of speaking with individuals whose voices many long-time aviation enthusiasts would recognize immediately.That's all we're going to say about that... for now.We're approaching internal beta testing and, if everything continues according to plan, we'll begin sharing screenshots, videos, demonstrations, and technical deep-dives in the near future.There is still a lot of work ahead.But after months of development, testing, redesigning, debugging, arguing, redesigning again, and countless late nights, we finally feel comfortable saying:This is real and it's coming!And we're excited to start sharing it with the community very soon./AnilAs long as it is not "premium subscription".. I'll probably buy it DA B760M PRO4 | i5-13400F | RTX 3060 12 GB | G.Skills Ripjaws 32GB | MSI MAG A550BN | Ace Power 1 TB NVMe | Cooler Master Hyper 212
Yesterday at 06:58 PM1 day I agree, you have to show some more then only saying it will be the best or something special. Until that time I just wait and see with popcorn. Rig Specs; CPU AMD Ryzen 9950X3d, GPU 5090 32gb, Memory 64GB 2x32 CL28 , WD-SN710 Black 500 GB, WD-SN710 Black 2TB, MSI x870XeTomahawk, Be Quit Straight power 1200 Watt platinum. LG Oled C4
Yesterday at 07:20 PM1 day Author Commercial Member 1 hour ago, JYW said:Promises, promises 😊I'll pop back when there's something to demonstrate, beyond hyper-marketing terms and high tech terminology.I hope you understand that my point is not a general whine / negativity. Anyone can claim they have "made something really different" that doesn't involve the usual weaknesses that we see, in AI-based ATC programs like Say Intentions. The SI guys are hugely into hyper-marketing and have made similar promises (and their AI solution is not limited to LLM either). The reality is often strikingly different to the promises.So personally, I just don't rate a promotional post that says "we're making something really special... but that's all we're going to say about that right now" (Forest Gump ™). Everyone who is doing AI at the moment seems carried away with their own grandure, and are convinced that they've found a way to do something that no-one else has. Where are these jaw-dropping solutions? I just see lots of AI-mediocrity.As I said, I will view with enthusiasm when you have something to show us.Hahahahha! You really really made my day. Promises huh (: I think we've passed that point by releasing SimPassengers and supporting it with all our forces. That's why "Promises promises" may be a phrase for other developers but not for us, no I'm not buying that.What hurts me more is the easter-egg you guys didn't event found it hidden in the post. I guess you didn't even read the whole post. If you have read it, the possible reply would be like "Omg with who?"I'm not making marketing in here, do you see any photos, any screenshots, any videos, any super duper created simulator videos? I guess not! This is only a post with an easter egg in it and a software which is about to be in beta testing phase. So I recommend you to read my post again and try to find that easter egg, Anil Ardahanli Computer Science BsC :: Sindel Aviation (Niner Wings) PPL // CPL // IR // ME // ATP CEO & Co-Founder of ACE-Solutions https://ace-solutions.io
Yesterday at 07:21 PM1 day Author Commercial Member 1 hour ago, JonathanC said:Agreed. When it's ready, post it here, show a video, let us download and play with it. I'm on both sides of this now - as a user plus someone developing an app(ffb-bridge, ffb-probe, not linking cause it's not relevant here, but just FYI in case you're interested).I know how tempting it is to really go hard on the teasers, but as a user.. I want to SEE and USE something (preferably free and privacy-respecting).Good luck with your app, I'm hoping it's good.. but please, do post something more of substance when it's actually ready.Again another one bites the dust. Not even catching the surprise in the post :( I thought this forum would appreciate the legends. Anyways... Edited yesterday at 07:24 PM1 day by anilcougar Anil Ardahanli Computer Science BsC :: Sindel Aviation (Niner Wings) PPL // CPL // IR // ME // ATP CEO & Co-Founder of ACE-Solutions https://ace-solutions.io
Yesterday at 07:24 PM1 day Author Commercial Member 2 hours ago, Christopher Low said:I appreciate that this is probably beyond the scope of your new software, but.......does it also improve the animation of the AI planes during taxi/departure/arrival?Sir yes sir! We have completely redesigned the movement engine of the simulator. We're not even using a single line of MSFS2024 code for moving the traffic around. The turns are smooth, aircrafts are flaring correctly even crosswinds are visible too. The level of quality is our main purpose. No arcade stuff, real aviation stuff running on our computers. Anil Ardahanli Computer Science BsC :: Sindel Aviation (Niner Wings) PPL // CPL // IR // ME // ATP CEO & Co-Founder of ACE-Solutions https://ace-solutions.io
Yesterday at 07:30 PM1 day Give the man a chance, it sounds promising, best wishes for this new ATC program, when more information may be available, for sure I may buy this. Alexander Colka
Yesterday at 07:43 PM1 day I would have preferred that Sim Passengers was finished first... But best of luck! Edited yesterday at 07:54 PM1 day by UAL4life
Yesterday at 07:45 PM1 day Are developers from former Microsoft Aces Game studios involved in this project? KInd regards Jean-Paul I7 8700K / Fractal Design Celsius S24 watercooling / ASRock Z370 Extreme4 motherboard / Corsair 32GB 3200mhz DDR4 / INNO3D iChiLL GeForce GTX 1080 Ti X3 / Samsung SSD 960 EVO M.2 PCIe NVMe 500GB / Seasonic-SSR-850FX power supply / Fractal Design Define R5 Black case / AOC Q3279VWF 32″ 2560x1440 monitor / Benq GL2450 24″ 1920x1080 monitor / Track-IR 4
Yesterday at 08:01 PM1 day If you can make the landing gear visible (I know this isn't ATC's problem) and not have planes slam into the runway and disappear in 2026 for less than $20 a month, I'm interested.
Yesterday at 08:09 PM1 day 47 minutes ago, anilcougar said:Hahahahha! You really really made my day. Promises huh (: I think we've passed that point by releasing SimPassengers and supporting it with all our forces. That's why "Promises promises" may be a phrase for other developers but not for us, no I'm not buying that.What hurts me more is the easter-egg you guys didn't event found it hidden in the post. I guess you didn't even read the whole post. If you have read it, the possible reply would be like "Omg with who?"I'm not making marketing in here, do you see any photos, any screenshots, any videos, any super duper created simulator videos? I guess not! This is only a post with an easter egg in it and a software which is about to be in beta testing phase. So I recommend you to read my post again and try to find that easter egg,You have the wrong attitude for someone trying to sell something soon. There's a dose of arrogance there.I didn't miss your "Easter Egg" - I just wasn't interested in whatever 'celebrity' you're alluding to.Remember what we've all told you here (not that you're hearing the feedback) - we're not interested in promises, marketing or celebrity aviators..... we're only interested in a real product.That said, as the Dragons in Dragon's Den would say - I'm out. People buy people and I don't like your unprofessional, silly defensive reaction to genuine feedback. I feel like I'm dealing with an ego that would put Brian from SI to shame! Edited yesterday at 08:13 PM1 day by JYW Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
Yesterday at 08:09 PM1 day 45 minutes ago, anilcougar said:Sir yes sir! We have completely redesigned the movement engine of the simulator. We're not even using a single line of MSFS2024 code for moving the traffic around. The turns are smooth, aircrafts are flaring correctly even crosswinds are visible too. The level of quality is our main purpose. No arcade stuff, real aviation stuff running on our computers.now you have my attention !! 😁 Edited yesterday at 08:10 PM1 day by pilotter Rig Specs; CPU AMD Ryzen 9950X3d, GPU 5090 32gb, Memory 64GB 2x32 CL28 , WD-SN710 Black 500 GB, WD-SN710 Black 2TB, MSI x870XeTomahawk, Be Quit Straight power 1200 Watt platinum. LG Oled C4
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