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Hi guys,I have a serious problem with export my Airbus A310 virtual cockpit to fs9. First two facts: polygon count 47463 mdl size 2.8 mbThe virtual cockpit worked just fine until yesterday. I created the geometry for the ACARS and tried to export it. It actualy exported but in flight simulator some parts are not where they belong to be. I could not find the reason for this because the model exported well and that's why there was no log-file. Now I figured out that when I export the vc without e.g. the overhead everything is fine. During export I cough the log-file and this is what it tells me:Running CockpitsStart! (D:Flight Simulator 9AircraftA310modelVC_interior)Loading X D:Flight Simulator 9AircraftA310modelVC_interior...Processing...(Part Box55) Found colocated vertices within triangle (-0.065672, 0.998203, 0.019885) ( 0.009039, 1.259722, 0.019885) ( 0.009039, 1.259732, 0.019885).(Part Box1170) Found colocated vertices within triangle ( 0.414830,-0.323935, 0.034926) ( 0.645308,-0.323593, 0.035072) ( 0.645308,-0.323558, 0.035087).(Part Box245) Found colinear vertices within triangle ( 0.306762, 0.444511, 0.054406) (-0.306762, 0.444511, 0.054406) (-0.392655, 0.444512, 0.054406).(Part Box245) Found colinear vertices within triangle (-0.392655, 0.444512, 0.054406) ( 0.392655, 0.444512, 0.054406) ( 0.306762, 0.444511, 0.054406).(Part Box09) Found colinear vertices within triangle (-0.693572, 0.997001, 0.062909) (-0.762929, 0.997001, 0.062909) (-0.529424, 0.997001, 0.062909).(Part Box09) Found colinear vertices within triangle ( 0.762929, 0.997001, 0.062909) ( 0.693572, 0.997001, 0.062909) ( 0.521203, 0.997001, 0.062909).(Part Box41) Found colocated vertices within triangle ( 1.732496, 0.463146,-2.227150) ( 1.732495, 0.463146,-0.893764) ( 1.732496, 0.463146,-2.227150).(Part Box06) Found colocated vertices within triangle (-8.726897,-3.008209, 0.357252) (-6.918845,-2.934212, 0.824447) (-6.918407,-2.934167, 0.824727).(Part Box06) Found colocated vertices within triangle (-6.918407,-2.934167, 0.824727) (-6.918845,-2.934212, 0.824447) (-4.414783,-2.934447, 0.822956).(Part Cylinder46) Found colocated vertices within triangle (-0.247152,-0.196309, 0.019397) (-0.247127,-0.196199, 0.019397) (-0.419596,-0.386612, 0.019396).(Part Cylinder46) Found colocated vertices within triangle (-0.247127,-0.196199, 0.019397) (-0.247152,-0.196309, 0.019397) (-0.247152,-0.196309,-0.019397).(Part Cylinder46) Found colocated vertices within triangle (-0.247152,-0.196309,-0.019397) (-0.247127,-0.196199,-0.019397) (-0.247127,-0.196199, 0.019397).(Part Box969) Found colinear vertices within triangle ( 0.306762, 0.444511, 0.054406) (-0.306762, 0.444511, 0.054406) (-0.392655, 0.444512, 0.054406).(Part Box969) Found colinear vertices within triangle (-0.392655, 0.444512, 0.054406) ( 0.392655, 0.444512, 0.054406) ( 0.306762, 0.444511, 0.054406).(Part Box970) Found colinear vertices within triangle ( 0.306762, 0.444511, 0.054406) (-0.306762, 0.444511, 0.054406) (-0.392655, 0.444512, 0.054406).(Part Box970) Found colinear vertices within triangle (-0.392655, 0.444512, 0.054406) ( 0.392655, 0.444512, 0.054406) ( 0.306762, 0.444511, 0.054406).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle ( 0.083855, 0.000000, 0.037845) ( 0.075551, 0.036383, 0.037845) ( 0.083855, 0.000000, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle ( 0.083855, 0.000000, 0.037845) ( 0.075551, 0.036383, 0.037845) ( 0.075551, 0.036383, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle ( 0.075551, 0.036383, 0.037845) ( 0.052283, 0.065560, 0.037845) ( 0.075551, 0.036383, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle ( 0.075551, 0.036383, 0.037845) ( 0.052283, 0.065560, 0.037845) ( 0.052283, 0.065560, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle ( 0.052283, 0.065560, 0.037845) ( 0.018660, 0.081752, 0.037845) ( 0.052283, 0.065560, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle ( 0.052283, 0.065560, 0.037845) ( 0.018660, 0.081752, 0.037845) ( 0.018660, 0.081752, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle ( 0.018660, 0.081752, 0.037845) (-0.018659, 0.081752, 0.037845) ( 0.018660, 0.081752, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle ( 0.018660, 0.081752, 0.037845) (-0.018659, 0.081752, 0.037845) (-0.018659, 0.081752, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle (-0.018659, 0.081752, 0.037845) (-0.052282, 0.065560, 0.037845) (-0.018659, 0.081752, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle (-0.018659, 0.081752, 0.037845) (-0.052282, 0.065560, 0.037845) (-0.052282, 0.065560, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle (-0.052282, 0.065560, 0.037845) (-0.075550, 0.036383, 0.037845) (-0.052282, 0.065560, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle (-0.052282, 0.065560, 0.037845) (-0.075550, 0.036383, 0.037845) (-0.075550, 0.036383, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle (-0.075550, 0.036383, 0.037845) (-0.083854, 0.000000, 0.037845) (-0.075550, 0.036383, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle (-0.075550, 0.036383, 0.037845) (-0.083854, 0.000000, 0.037845) (-0.083854, 0.000000, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle (-0.083854, 0.000000, 0.037845) (-0.075550,-0.036384, 0.037845) (-0.083854, 0.000000, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle (-0.083854, 0.000000, 0.037845) (-0.075550,-0.036384, 0.037845) (-0.075550,-0.036384, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle (-0.075550,-0.036384, 0.037845) (-0.052282,-0.065561, 0.037845) (-0.075550,-0.036384, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle (-0.075550,-0.036384, 0.037845) (-0.052282,-0.065561, 0.037845) (-0.052282,-0.065561, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle (-0.052282,-0.065561, 0.037845) (-0.018659,-0.081753, 0.037845) (-0.052282,-0.065561, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle (-0.052282,-0.065561, 0.037845) (-0.018659,-0.081753, 0.037845) (-0.018659,-0.081753, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle (-0.018659,-0.081753, 0.037845) ( 0.018660,-0.081753, 0.037845) (-0.018659,-0.081753, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle (-0.018659,-0.081753, 0.037845) ( 0.018660,-0.081753, 0.037845) ( 0.018660,-0.081753, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle ( 0.018660,-0.081753, 0.037845) ( 0.052283,-0.065561, 0.037845) ( 0.018660,-0.081753, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle ( 0.018660,-0.081753, 0.037845) ( 0.052283,-0.065561, 0.037845) ( 0.052283,-0.065561, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle ( 0.052283,-0.065561, 0.037845) ( 0.075551,-0.036384, 0.037845) ( 0.052283,-0.065561, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle ( 0.052283,-0.065561, 0.037845) ( 0.075551,-0.036384, 0.037845) ( 0.075551,-0.036384, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle ( 0.075551,-0.036384, 0.037845) ( 0.083855, 0.000000, 0.037845) ( 0.075551,-0.036384, 0.037845).(Part Cylinder495) Found colocated vertices within triangle ( 0.075551,-0.036384, 0.037845) ( 0.083855, 0.000000, 0.037845) ( 0.083855, 0.000000, 0.037845).(Part Box971) Found colinear vertices within triangle (-0.693572, 0.997001, 0.062909) (-0.762929, 0.997001, 0.062909) (-0.529424, 0.997001, 0.062909).(Part Box971) Found colinear vertices within triangle ( 0.762929, 0.997001, 0.062909) ( 0.693572, 0.997001, 0.062909) ( 0.521203, 0.997001, 0.062909).(Part Box1060) Found colocated vertices within triangle (-2.057529, 0.463146,-0.893766) (-2.057529, 0.463145,-2.227152) (-2.057529, 0.463146,-2.227152).(Part Cylinder40) Found colocated vertices within triangle ( 0.013455, 0.078892,-0.058525) (-0.000008, 0.061907,-0.058525) ( 0.000000, 0.060973,-0.058525).(Part Cylinder40) Found colocated vertices within triangle ( 0.000000, 0.060973,-0.058525) (-0.000008, 0.061907,-0.058525) (-0.030487, 0.052804,-0.058525).Too many partsToo many partsToo many partsToo many partsToo many partsToo many partsToo many partsModel units are 1024.00 units/metereyepoint: (0.000000,0.000000,0.000000)Sorting alpha polys by distance to eye...Sorting by Material...Optimize Parts...Welding...Generate BGL...ERROR: Animation trigger spoiler7sw not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger spoiler6sw not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger spoiler5sw not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger spoiler41sw not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger spoiler32sw not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger rudtravel2sw not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger rudtravel1sw not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger pitchfeel2sw not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger pitchfeel1sw not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger slatssw not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger flapssw not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger SW_Fuel_Xfeed not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger SW_trimtankisol not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger SW_Fuel_Trimtankmode not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger SW_Fuel_Trimtank2 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger SW_Fuel_Trimtank1 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger engstart1sw not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger engstart2sw not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Box810 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Box811 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Box812 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Box813 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Box814 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Box815 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger engtrimsw not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger wingmodeselsw not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger aiceeng2sw not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger aiceeng1sw not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger wingsupplysw not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Cylinder397 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Cylinder396 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger call5 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger call_4 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger call3 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger call2 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger call1 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger selcom4 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger selcom3 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger selcom2 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger selcom1 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Cylinder414 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Cylinder411 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Cylinder410 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Cylinder408 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Cylinder406 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger SW_Elec_Galley not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Box823 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Box822 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger sys1 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger sys2 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger VSup not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Box1164 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Cylinder645 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Cylinder644 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Cylinder643 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Cylinder642 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Cylinder641 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Cylinder640 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Cylinder639 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Cylinder638 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Cylinder637 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Cylinder636 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Cylinder635 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Cylinder634 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Cylinder633 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Cylinder632 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Box1163 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Box1162 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Box1161 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Box1160 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Box1159 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Box1158 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Box1157 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Box1156 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Box1172 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Box1177 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Cylinder658 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Box51 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Cylinder653 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger KursVOR2 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger KursVOR1 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger mw07 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger mw06 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger mw05 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger mw04 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger KursADF2 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger KursADF1 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger mw03 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger mw02 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger mw01 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger mw not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger KursVOR03 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger KursVOR04 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger door not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger fctl not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger apu not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger wheel not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger bleed not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger fuel not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger press not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger cond not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger dc not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger ac not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger hyd not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger eng not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger clr not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger sts not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger rcl not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: Animation trigger Cylinder756 not found, mapped to "userdefined8"ERROR: AnimatioDo you have any idea how to solve this problem? Please don't tell me I have to delete or simplify parts of the vc to make it work. Thanks!best regardsMartin

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Martin, unfortunately that is precisely what you'll have to do...

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Hello Bill,I figured out that there ist a maximum of 1500 parts ( better say objects... ) for each, vc and ouside model, in fs9. I selected one overhead panel and attached it ( not link it ) to the other panels on the overhead. Now the vc has got 1200 parts and everything works fine. I never knew that there is such a limit...best regardsMartin

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Sometimes "simplifying" is just a matter of attaching seperate objects to form one, single object. As long as they are going to use the same Material and/or texture, there should be no complications in doing so.In fact, for some models I've attached completely unrelated parts from all over the model into a single "part," just to keep the actual draw call count and parts list to the minimum... ;)

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Just two screenshots to show you that it works....D-AIDF-1.JPGD-AIDF-2.JPG

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Oooo! Lovely work! ;)

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Hello everyone,today I finished the cockpit seats but once more makemdl won't compile. The log file says error A2071: initializer magnitude too large. I searched for this topic but no thread dealing with this issue could help. What I did: I created a simple model of the seats and then used the mesh smooth modifier twice to round the edges. When I delete the seats the model will compile. If I keep the seats and delete a complex object of the cockpit like the overhead it will compile too. Looks like a polygon problem, doesn't it? But gmax says 53215 polys. I though the polygon limit is somewhere above 65000?I hope you can help!

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Understand that the "polygon counter" in Max/GMax is inaccurate if you have any parts in E-Poly format.The 65k poly limit is based on triangles, and an e-poly poly consists of at least two triangles.If you select all your objects in the scene, then rightclick and select "Convert to E-Mesh," then look at your "polygon counter" you will then have a fairly accurate idea of what the real total number of trangle polys are in your mode... ;)

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Hello Bill,I use editable mesh mode for all parts. That's why gmax still tells me 53215 polys. Do you have another idea?best regardsMartin

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