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Absolutely awesome Simpit,And doing all the 'Feathering' while concentrating on what appeared to be a very rapid decent too. Many thanks for the link.

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Guest Staggerwing

Great job with collected thoughts and actions.. wish everyone could pull it off that smoothly.He saved the cranks, but I think he still ground the props down as viewed in the bottom video. At least one of them anyway.. No matter though, could have been so much worse.

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A fantastic job! I was wondering if the fellow in the right seat was a competent twin-pilot, too, and could have done the fine-tuning of positioning the props. I speculate upon this because the pilot--left seat--if he were doing it would be looking to each side to see just where the props were, thus diverting his attention from keeping it on the centerline and knowing when to flare.Geof...If you're reading this, because you fly a light-twin, what do you think?To every body. A Happy Thanksgiving:-) --Roger

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I think the two of them were working together. From some flight boards I frequent it is interesting how some critic their actions to save the engines-after all the whole thing belongs to the insurance company is their argument.I think they did a great job-and suspect one was flying and the other was trying to do minimal damage to the engines/props-a great job of cockpit resource management.Ditto on the Happy Thanksgiving!GeofaMy blog:http://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/

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>I think the two of them were working together. From some>flight boards I frequent it is interesting how some critic>their actions to save the engines-after all the whole thing>belongs to the insurance company is their argument.>>I think they did a great job-and suspect one was flying and>the other was trying to do minimal damage to the>engines/props-a great job of cockpit resource management.>>Ditto on the Happy Thanksgiving!>Geofa>My blog:>http://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/I bet if they didn't do what they did, and one of those props flew off on impact and hit someone, either in the cockpit or a nearby rescuer, those same people would be singing a different tune!! They did a great job under the circumstances.


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Unfortunately I am going to be the critical one here. He killed the power way to early. Killing the power like that killed all the 'outs' he had in this option. What if there was a shear in the wind direction/speed? He already landed way short on the displaced threshold if there was any change in wind direction he would have been picking the grass out of his teeth.This is how it should have been done:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edgi30UXAlso bumping the starters is not a very smart idea while on a long dead stick final, he had enough to worry about. Glad they made it out ok

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>Unfortunately I am going to be the critical one here. >>He killed the power way to early. Killing the power like that>killed all the 'outs' he had in this option. What if there was>a shear in the wind direction/speed? He already landed way>short on the displaced threshold if there was any change in>wind direction he would have been picking the grass out of his>teeth.>>This is how it should have been done:>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edgi30UX>>Also bumping the starters is not a very smart idea while on a>long dead stick final, he had enough to worry about. >>Glad they made it out okIt looks like his descent rate was steep enough to allow for more options if required. The video also shows two people in the aircraft, which can easily account for the ability to fine tune the props. I think he did a great job, with minimal damage to the airplane. And yes, I've heard a lot about the why's and why nots of killing engines.L.Adamson

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