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Hello guys,I am planning to add some library airport objects to the default scenery.How can I set the coordinates that they do not show :eg N52 16.50 ,but N52 16.50 xxxxx In a circle of 10-15 m the coordinates are the same and that is not precise enough to put a pushbacktruck in fornt of the gear.Thanks in adavance,Gerard SaldenTeam Wideview

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Hello Dick,The intention is to be in Fs and then with topdown I put the red cross near the aircraft.The coordinates I use to compile .What i need is in Fs itself more accurate coordinates.I remember back in the Fs2000 days you had to write down something in the cfg file and then it worked.That is what I am looking for.Thanks,

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Hi Gerald, I don't think you understand Dick's answer. Tcalc2004 will give you very exact coordinates. It uses FDSconnect.dll or FSUIPC.dll in the FS2004 modules folder to work with FS2004. You simply use the top down view in FS while in slew mode to place the airplane (cross) exactly where you want it. Next start Tcalc2004 and it will give you both decimal and degree-minutes format along with other FS grid system info. You can now close FS but leave Tcalc2004 open unless you have lotsa RAM. Now you copy the very exact coordinates to the clipboard with Ctrl-C by higlighting them first. Next paste them into where needed in the object code you are placing before compiling. Its down to a fraction of a meter. I think that FDSconnect comes with the Tcalc2004 download.Larry Costa

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>What i need is in Fs itself more accurate coordinates.Hello,You need to edit:C:Documents and SettingsUserNameApplication DataMicrosoftFS9FS9.CFGand check one line in the MAIN section:[MAIN]...DISPLAY_FRACTIONAL_MINUTES=0Regards, Luis

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This is an old post but I have the same problem, I would like to read the coordinates to the 4th decimal place in minutes. I have been reading them configured in degrees; minutes; and seconds to the 4th decimal place, then dividing by 60 to get the minute decimals - a bit cumbersome but it works. I guess there is no way that the FS display can give minutes to 4 decimal places?I downloaded Tcalc2004 and installed it but I cannot get it to give the correct coordinates when slewed over the spot I want to record - the numbers in Tcalc2004 bear no relation to the coordinates in FS. I have tried metric, East,West but I can get no correct record and I can see no logic in the Tcalc2004 numbers. Any ideas?NigelVancouver

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GaborYes, I think you are correct, I downloaded this newer version after posting but it still has not resolved my problem. pls not that this string is quite old and I would be better starting a new string. I am also trying to use the XML Object placer by Arno and that looks to be an encouraging approachNigel

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Hi Arno again!The latitude and longitude numbers bear no relationship to the coordinates of where I am positioned. If they were correct I would be very happy!Nigel

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Hi Nigel,There is a bug in TCalc: you must restart it AFTER every FS9 restart, or it will just stick with the old coordinates from the last time it was used.I assume you already have an FDSConnection.Jon

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Hi JonYes, FDSConnection.dll is in place, the coordinate readings in the box were the first readings, and I have checked with both full screen and windowed mode of FS.Nigel

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Hi Nigel,This is weird. Have you tried using any of the other connection modules? If I remember correct TCalc will automatically switch to FSUIPC or FsConnect if FDSConnection is not found.

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Hi ArnoI removed FDSConnection.dll and its log from Modules, then TCalc showed N/A in the coordinates boxes. I have FSUIPC (payware) and FsConnect inplace. Maybe your new ObjPlacer may help me when it comes out?Nigel

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Hi Nigel.I believe that the Lago addon that places objects will overwrite the FS variables and screw up TCalc. ( Basically, Lago is "illegally' using that memory location in the sim. ) There could be another addon you're using that does the same thing. I wondered if FSUIPC would someday do this, and thereby block the use of other IPC modules... not a nice thought, but we are talking payware vs. freeware. :(I would suspect whatever it is, it would be in your Modules or Gauges folders. TCalc only works with FDSConnection, it doesn't switch to, or detect anything else. FSConnect, FSUIPC, and FDSConnection all allow viewing the same memory locations in the sim. Gauges also may interact with these variable locations. They all exist harmoniously... FSUIPC, FDSConnection, several gauges all address the same locations without any problem. But it seems there's always one in the crowd that won't follow the rules and play nice. :( Find the one that won't play nice, and you'll be able to disable it and get TCalc to work again.Dick

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>I removed FDSConnection.dll and its log from Modules, then>TCalc showed N/A in the coordinates boxes. I have FSUIPC>(payware) and FsConnect inplace.My mind must be confusing me here. As Dick mentioned it only works with FDSConnection.As I also have FsConnect and FSUIPC (full payed version) installed, I am pretty sure these two are not causing the trouble.>Maybe your new ObjPlacer may help me when it comes out?You could already use the current one, that can read coordinates from FS (using FSUIPC). But it is not really designed to only read them, so you would have to pretend that you are placing something :).

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Thx for the messages. I removed FSConnect, FSUIPC, and it still does not work. I have determined my coordinates by reading them in decimal seconds and converting them right away with a calculator into decimal minutes. Arno I tried ObjPlacer but it is in decimal degrees so I would still have to do a calulation to get to decimal minutes?Nigel

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Hi Nigel,Yes, if you want them in degrees and decimal minutes you need to do some calulcations. But why do you want them in that format? I find working with the decimal degrees format a lot easier.

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Ahah! Now I didn't know that, my first venture into the XML files showed them in the degrees/decimal minutes format so I thought that was fixed. I could have saved massive amounts of time!! Thx Arno, you may hear from me over at the scenery design forum, I am having some problems with the latest ObjPlacer but I think, with any luck, I am working through and resolving them. The curse of scenery design is that so often you seem to hit these massive roadblocks and never get anywhere and feel like tossing the whole thing. Then you have a breakthrough, usually from help on a forum, then you wonder what all your problem was!! I can see why you have those emoticons beating their head against a wall at your forum!regardsNigel

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Thx, I have downloaded it and will give it a try although I think I have the new ObjPlacer0.8 doing the job okay. Cannot help you with FSFlatten,I'm afraid, sorry.Nigel

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Hi Dasher7.FSValues is fine, and gives much of the same info as TCalc. I've included a screenshot which shows FSvalues ( using FSUIPC ), TCalc2004_v2 ( using FDSConnection ), and FS9.Everybody obeys the rules and doesn't overwrite FS addresses, and all the programs work together.http://webpages.charter.net/ludowr/images/tools.jpgDick

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