Lilliput or Brobdingnag

[LuisFelizTirado 33]

Recently, while working on a re-make of Gibraltar, I decided to place some antennae on top of the Rock. The default generic antennae seemed fine for this purpose

[Guest luissa]

Hi Luis,I spent some time yesterday taking shots in order to get an image for each object in the list that you sent me some days ago. There are a number that did not show (I can make a list) and, as you, I also tried to unset AGL in some cases. One obvious object was the "weather ballon" but I never thought to raise the TV antena :-) Luis

[Holger 0]

Hi Luis and Luis,Nice story of discovery ;-) When I first tried placing those objects I too was about to dismiss them as odd. My "Heureka" came when I used the F1 button to place the aircraft (in slew mode) on the ground facing the object. When one hits the ground there's a split second that one can see the part of an object that extends beneath the ground and so I noticed that I wasn't seeing the whole thing.Two other objects that are drilled deep into the ground are gen_pole01 and gen_stack01.Cheers, Holger

[rhumbaflappy 113]

Hi all.This makes perfect sense for the design team.They get GIS data locating the air obsrtuctions ( towers, smokestacks... ) but that data lists the absolute height of the obstruction. So by changing the refpoint to the top of the object, and making the object height huge, they can just place the generic object at the listed height. This saves them from making a new object for each location.Pretty smart.Another use of this type of creation might be gmaxed dams. Make the top the refpoint, and the dam can then burrow into the ground regardless of the water height or mesh.Dick

[Guest luissa]

Hi,I could not take shots of these objects (I could not get them to show on the sim). I would be grateful if someone confirms this. Please ignore the numbers in the midle of the list. c545a27111d2e2ec1000849c2ae60c5a 1 50 50 1 SCO_gen_radarshackB7328626b11d303801000859c2ae60c5a 1 50 50 1 SCO_gen_radarshackdishf60ad9e2403191887dc6c69cb7a521f9 1 50 50 1 ag_Church_197d5a3804f479899ab6ca0abf638fdd7 1 50 50 1 ag_Mosquea181fb4744c5366e767816846f7e6b0b 1 50 50 1 ag_Shintobab9aec64d8f697167a02abe2e4e05e4 1 50 50 1 ag_synagogueb7e320984fcc40efadccff9c2976d125 1 50 50 1 VEH_Fuel_Truck41eaf96f4f1c98145fb26083b59c895f 1 50 50 1 fx_db_m1bd1017bc46a85e112f6f54925e6dd0e4 1 50 50 1 fx_mzlFlsh85d943914304ceff3222179c94a52c83 1 50 50 1 gen_barn027a7fbb59429e373b1f432986268a7934 1 50 50 1 gen_beacon01305fb2f644802f69c9be57816ed05913 1 50 50 1 gen_elevatorbeb7289e4e91d99380a4aabbcb99d4ac 1 50 50 1 gen_launchpad_alone01_EXTRA5c55111b4e1b5620af15409073f620a2 1 50 50 1 gen_rig0289a17f8011d469365000df914a44d104 1 50 50 1 markerdeeb26fe4d5e2a98eeac22bf1825024c 1 50 50 1 Parking01558a197a459dbd2b6d53018f4d84570e 1 50 50 1 Parking02003f5b984d69ae8d4eb46a989fcd34f3 1 50 50 1 Parking0339d278b1438717b36a96b69af1ce198a 1 50 50 1 Parking0454690006267300F0022E0DB1C0F65F5C 0 50 50 1 Strobe_whitef794205c45821677eaf648a034de1c89 1 50 50 1 Tower9f3d627848e0b0824a8dee8ddf6f91fa 1 50 50 1 WaterTower9ed1221b436f815025d28db7e4a80bbf 1 50 50 1 rdbldc545a27c11d2e2ec1000849c2ae60c5a 1 50 50 1 SCO_genbldg_skydkgraymd7328624b11d303801000859c2ae60c5a 1 50 50 1 SCO_genbldg_tanmd7328626011d303801000859c2ae60c5a 1 50 50 1 SCO_genbldg_tansm7328626111d303801000859c2ae60c5a 1 50 50 1 SCO_genbldg_tantallIn these 2 - I get a midle air structure ???8b9cf4fe4d62ff442e8dcd9089a4e90d 1 50 50 1 VEH_water_eastcoastcarrier25cb7e8834a8478e98c729c90b0f83994 1 50 50 1 VEH_carrier2In these 2 I get the solid without textures. Is some texture missing in my FS?c545a28011d2e2ec1000849c2ae60c5a 1 50 50 1 SCO_genbldg_skymdgraymdc545a28111d2e2ec1000849c2ae60c5a 1 50 50 1 SCO_genbldg_skymdgraysmRegards, Luis

[LuisFelizTirado 33]

Thanks for the tip, Holger.The generic pole is 199 meter BGL (Below Ground Level).http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/116662.jpgThe generic chimney stack is 431 meters BGL (Below Ground Level).http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/116663.jpgHere is a side-by-side shot for comparison purposes.http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/116664.jpgLuis, if possible, I would be very interested in seeing the results of your investigations with these objects, and the list that results.I shall take a look at the above objects and let you know what happens.Best regards.Luis

[Guest jimkeir]

Hi,I think you'll find the generic balloon and the cranes are also positioned the same way.Cheers,Jim

[LuisFelizTirado 33]

Thanks, Jim. I shall take a look at these and report back.Luis, after checking with Winfried's file, this is what I have found:On Microsoft's list, but not in any library bglf60ad9e2403191887dc6c69cb7a521f9 ag_Church_197d5a3804f479899ab6ca0abf638fdd7 ag_Mosquea181fb4744c5366e767816846f7e6b0b ag_Shintobab9aec64d8f697167a02abe2e4e05e4 ag_synagogue85d943914304ceff3222179c94a52c83 gen_barn027a7fbb59429e373b1f432986268a7934 gen_beacon01305fb2f644802f69c9be57816ed05913 gen_elevatorbeb7289e4e91d99380a4aabbcb99d4ac gen_launchpad_alone01_EXTRA5c55111b4e1b5620af15409073f620a2 gen_rig0289a17f8011d469365000df914a44d104 markerc545a27c11d2e2ec1000849c2ae60c5a SCO_genbldg_skydkgraymd7328624b11d303801000859c2ae60c5a SCO_genbldg_tanmd7328626011d303801000859c2ae60c5a SCO_genbldg_tansm7328626111d303801000859c2ae60c5a SCO_genbldg_tantallProbably Combat Flight Simulator, not in any library bglb7e320984fcc40efadccff9c2976d125 VEH_Fuel_Truck41eaf96f4f1c98145fb26083b59c895f fx_db_m1bd1017bc46a85e112f6f54925e6dd0e4 fx_mzlFlshUnknown - incomplete? damaged?c545a27111d2e2ec1000849c2ae60c5a SCO_gen_radarshackB -- in generic.bgl, object 787328626b11d303801000859c2ae60c5a SCO_gen_radarshackdish -- in generic.bgl, object 688b9cf4fe4d62ff442e8dcd9089a4e90d VEH_water_eastcoastcarrier2 -- in vehicles.bgl, object 695cb7e8834a8478e98c729c90b0f83994 VEH_carrier2 -- in vehicles.bgl, object 319ed1221b436f815025d28db7e4a80bbf rdbld -- in generic.bgl, object 16Coordinate-delimiteddeeb26fe4d5e2a98eeac22bf1825024c Parking01 -- Oshkosh.bgl558a197a459dbd2b6d53018f4d84570e Parking02 -- Oshkosh.bgl003f5b984d69ae8d4eb46a989fcd34f3 Parking03 -- Oshkosh.bgl39d278b1438717b36a96b69af1ce198a Parking04 -- Oshkosh.bglf794205c45821677eaf648a034de1c89 Tower -- Oshkosh.bgl9f3d627848e0b0824a8dee8ddf6f91fa WaterTower -- Oshkosh.bglDOES NOT APPEAR ON MICROSOFT LIST54690006267300F0022E0DB1C0F65F5C Strobe_whiteFS 2000 buildings, Seem to be missing textures, as with all these buildings in FS 2004c545a28011d2e2ec1000849c2ae60c5a SCO_genbldg_skymdgraymd -- generic.bgl, object 10c545a28111d2e2ec1000849c2ae60c5a SCO_genbldg_skymdgraysm -- generic.bgl, object 10It is probably best to remove these objects from the list altogether.Best regards.Luis