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Hi, I'm using FS9, along with Ultimate Traffic. I've new to Traffic Tools, but will just 'delve-in' here and see what happens :) Long after building my own single-runway AFCAD airport (located in West Michigan), then RWY-12 for scenery, I found it 'fairly' easy to use TTools and add A/I traffic to my airfield. 'yRoute' util helped me build the A/I plans. After adding A/I flights, Traffic-Tools traffic works fine, except I see one problem; although all A/I aircraft 'flights' work well, almost all AC are duplicates of the same type of aircraft. For instance, I have made A/I flights for FS9's stock Mooney, C-182, Caravan, Beach Baron, Lear, King-Air, etc, found and listed in 'aircraft.txt' after decompiling. After adding A/I flights and finished compiling, my airfield will show 4/5/6 aircrafts at the airfield, yet only 2 A/I aircraft 'types', just the Lear-45, and King-Air. I can't figure out why only 2 types of AC are showing up as A/I aircraft, when my 'Flightplans.txt' file clearly shows new A/I flights with all the different (stock) FS9 type aircraft (as listed above). It seems all types of them should appear, not just the Lear-45 and King-Air Here's a list that shows my A/I add-ons in 'flightplans.txt' (not fine-tuned yet, but they are working)AC#2072,11,50%,8Hr,IFR,00:01:00,00:20:59,040,R,0111,KMKG,00:30:00,00:49:59,150,F,0123,KCVLAC#2072,22,50%,8Hr,IFR,00:01:00,00:20:59,040,R,0111,KMKG,00:30:00,00:49:59,150,F,0123,KCVLAC#2070,33,50%,8Hr,IFR,00:01:00,00:22:05,040,R,0111,KMKG,00:30:00,00:51:06,150,F,0123,KCVLAC#2078,44,50%,6Hr,IFR,02:00:59,02:22:12,040,R,0111,KMKG,06:29:56,06:51:12,150,F,0123,KCVLAC#2079,55,50%,6Hr,IFR,02:00:59,02:22:12,040,R,0111,KMKG,06:29:56,06:51:12,150,F,0123,KCVLAC#2078,66,50%,6Hr,IFR,02:00:59,02:22:12,040,R,0111,KMKG,06:29:56,06:51:12,150,F,0123,KCVLAC#2081,111,50%,2Hr,IFR,00:01:00,00:17:52,040,R,0111,KMKG,00:30:00,00:46:53,150,F,0123,KCVLAC#2068,222,50%,2Hr,IFR,00:01:00,00:22:25,040,R,0222,KGRR,00:30:00,00:51:25,150,F,0123,KCVLAC#2068,333,50%,1Hr,IFR,00:01:00,00:31:59,090,R,0333,KAZO,01:30:00,01:00:59,150,F,0123,KCVLAC#2076,444,50%,2Hr,IFR,00:01:00,00:54:45,080,R,0444,KTVC,01:30:00,02:23:46,150,F,0123,KCVLAC#2072,555,50%,2Hr,IFR,00:01:00,01:20:50,085,R,0555,KIMT,01:30:00,02:49:49,150,F,0123,KCVLAC#2070,777,50%,4Hr,IFR,00:01:00,01:31:16,380,F,0123,MMUN,04:30:00,06:00:16,150,F,0123,KCVLAC#2070,888,50%,4Hr,IFR,00:01:00,01:08:23,150,R,0888,KDTW,01:30:00,02:37:23,150,F,0123,KCVLAC#2071,999,50%,6Hr,IFR,02:00:59,03:01:53,080,R,0999,KORD,06:29:56,07:30:53,150,F,0123,KCVLAC#2062,1111,50%,6Hr,IFR,02:00:59,03:01:06,150,R,1111,KCLE,06:29:56,07:30:05,150,F,0123,KCVLAC#2081,11,50%,1Hr,IFR,00:01:00,00:22:53,040,R,0111,KCVL,00:30:00,00:51:53,150,F,0123,KAZOAC#2071,22,50%,1Hr,IFR,00:01:00,00:51:16,040,R,0111,KCVL,01:30:00,01:20:16,150,F,0123,KSBNAC#2081,33,50%,1Hr,IFR,00:01:00,00:23:07,040,R,0111,KCVL,00:30:00,00:52:07,150,F,0123,KBTLAC#2077,44,50%,2Hr,IFR,01:01:00,01:42:23,040,R,0111,KCVL,02:30:00,03:11:23,150,F,0123,KLANAC#2081,55,50%,2Hr,IFR,01:01:00,01:23:54,040,R,0111,KCVL,02:30:00,02:52:55,150,F,0123,KMOPAC#2081,66,50%,6Hr,IFR,01:01:00,01:25:23,040,R,0111,KCVL,06:29:56,06:54:22,150,F,0123,KMBLAC#2069,111,50%,6Hr,IFR,01:01:00,01:18:45,040,R,0111,KCVL,06:29:56,06:47:43,150,F,0123,KMKGAC#2068,222,50%,2Hr,IFR,01:01:00,01:22:25,040,R,0222,KCVL,02:30:00,02:51:25,150,F,0123,KGRRAC#2071,333,50%,1Hr,IFR,00:01:00,00:38:22,090,R,0333,KCVL,01:30:00,01:07:22,150,F,0123,KAZOAC#2076,444,50%,2Hr,IFR,01:01:00,01:54:45,080,R,0444,KCVL,03:30:00,02:23:46,150,F,0123,KTVCAC#2080,555,50%,2Hr,IFR,01:01:00,02:37:03,085,R,0555,KCVL,03:30:00,03:06:03,150,F,0123,KIMTAC#2081,777,50%,6Hr,IFR,03:01:00,06:07:07,380,F,0123,KCVL,04:30:00,07:36:07,150,F,0123,MMUNAC#2078,888,50%,4Hr,IFR,03:01:00,04:09:31,150,R,0888,KCVL,05:30:00,06:38:32,150,F,0123,KDTWAC#2079,999,50%,6Hr,IFR,01:01:00,02:02:55,080,R,0999,KCVL,06:29:56,07:31:53,150,F,0123,KORDAC#2068,1111,50%,6Hr,IFR,01:01:00,02:18:02,150,R,1111,KCVL,06:29:56,07:47:00,150,F,0123,KCLE________Here are matching aircraft types (stock FS9 stuff), as listed in 'aircraft.txt' file:AC#2068,200,"Beech Baron 58"AC#2069,315,"Beech King Air 350"AC#2070,143,"Cessna 208 Caravan Amphibian Paint2"AC#2071,143,"Cessna 208 Caravan Amphibian"AC#2072,175,"Cessna Grand Caravan"AC#2073,129,"Cessna Skyhawk 172SP Paint2"AC#2074,129,"Cessna Skyhawk 172SP Paint1"AC#2075,129,"Cessna Skyhawk 172SP"AC#2076,156,"Cessna Skylane 182R RG"AC#2077,140,"Cessna Skylane 182S Paint2"AC#2078,140,"Cessna Skylane 182S Paint3"AC#2079,140,"Cessna Skylane 182S"AC#2080,140,"Cessna Skylane 182S Paint1"AC#2081,464,"Learjet 45"AC#2082,195,"Mooney Bravo"AC#2083,125,"Piper Cherokee 180"AC#2084,125,"Piper Cherokee 180 Paint1"AC#2085,125,"Piper Cherokee 180 Paint2" I just can't figure out why only Lear-45's and King-Air's show up, but no other AC types. If you have any ideas, please help. Only other minor problem, all A/I AC seem to land more towards the middle of airstrip, instead of the touchdown areas. I may be a missing AFCAD runway setting, but at least all A/I AC still land, taxi, and park okay. Thanks, Mattp.s. My flightplans.txt file also contains all Ultimate Traffic flights. I'd love to use some of UT's AC# codes (A/I aircrafts) for my airfield (better looking planes), but can't tell what they are, as each flight has no description of the aircraft-type in use. Is there any way to find out what UT 'AC#' codes mean,to find out what aircraft-type it is?p.s.2 Just for my own airfield A/I planes, I am decompiling and compiling using Traffic-Tools only. UT-compiles delete all my A/I flights, and is used only for UT updates.

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Hi,One reason you might only be seeing the faster aircraft is the fact that most of your plans take longer than the repeat period - perhaps those faster planes arrive before the next departure is scheduled and the slower ones don't. If not they won't show up at all.If you have a flight from 00:00:00 and returns at 01:27:45, then that has to be a 2hr plan, not 1hr. If left as a 1hr plan it often will not be used at all. Change all your plans so the repeat periods are longer than the actual flight times.Hope this helps,--Tom GibsonCal Classic Propliner Page: http://www.calclassic.comFreeflight Design Shop: http://www.freeflightdesign.comDrop by! ___x_x_(")_x_x___

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Thanks for the tip about 'Hr' times. It's neat that a 'compile' automatically figures out a the average length of each flight. I've not edited the 'Hour' numbers yet, but will check each entry and make sure there's enough time allowed to complete each flight. Meanwhile, I got rid of all stock FS9 aircraft flights at my AFCAD airport. I had duplicates of the same, stock FS9 AC.There was some type of conflict with FS9 and Ultimate Traffic. I found a PAI utility, which now creates only Ultimate-Traffic aircraft to my AFCAD airstrip. They look a lot better than stock FS9 planes, and now I have a separate (PIA) traffic-files, much smaller and easier to work with.

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