ONE Minor Debonair Problem Solved, Geof.

[Guest artl]

This problem applies to:1.You are running Geof's deb on the non-proFS2002 version, (I suspect it may be the same on the Pro version)2. You are using that version of panel.cfg which was createdfor NOT using the RealityXP radio stack.THEN:...you may have found that after flying the deb, FS2002may choke when you try to change to another plane or another flight. (You may also get the FS "I have choked" message on exit, but bythen who cares...).The culprit appears to be the entry:gauge19=gps500x!gps, 583,321,181,205in the Vcockpit02 section of panel.cfg.This is the only entry for the "gps500x" gauge in the cfg file, andI suspect it got in there by mistake, right, Geof? The normal gps in the radio stack is mx20gps!gps. I substitutedthe mx20gps!gps here, and all is good. (The whole Vcockpit02 section could be removed, also)I would appreciate a post from someone who can duplicate thissymptom.If anybody knows something about the development of the gps500x gauge, there may be some problem with it that requires a fix ???Art.

[barryward12345 0]

I am afraid that I don't understand this post. As far as I can see, the Debonair has no virtual cockpit and hence, has no "Vcockpit02 section of panel.cfg".Barry

[Guest artl]

It might not be used, but it is there, on the download which I gotArt.

[barryward12345 0]

Cant find it in my downloadBarry

[barryward12345 0]

Here are the contents of the Panel.cfg file that I have (I am not using the RealityXP one)=====// This Panel.cfg file created by FS Panel Studio - http://www.fspanelstudio.com// Built Friday, May 24, 2002 at 16:09 FSPS Build:8253[Window Titles]Window00=Main PanelWindow01=Radio StackWindow02=GPSWindow03=Throttle QuadrantWindow04=COLLECTIVE_PANELFixed Window30=Forward LeftFixed Window31=LeftFixed Window32=Rear LeftFixed Window33=RearFixed Window34=Rear RightFixed Window35=RightFixed Window36=Forward Right[VIEWS]VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=0,RADIO_STACK_PANEL,GPS_PANEL,THROTTLE_PANEL,COLLECTIVE_PANELview_forward_WINDOWS=MAIN_PANELVIEW_FORWARD_DIR=7.0, 0.0, 0.0view_forward_WINDOWS=MAIN_PANELeyepoint= -3.95, -0.60, 2.25SIZE_Y=4500VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_WINDOWS=36VIEW_RIGHT_WINDOWS=35VIEW_RIGHT_EYE=0.0VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_WINDOWS=34VIEW_REAR_WINDOWS=33VIEW_REAR_LEFT_WINDOWS=32VIEW_LEFT_WINDOWS=31VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_WINDOWS=30VIEW_UP_WINDOWS=37VIEW_UP_DIR=0.0, 0.0, 0.0//--------------------------------------------------------[Window00]file=335.bmp file_1024=335.bmp size_mm=1024window_size_ratio=1.000 position=7visible=1ident=0gauge00=b33whiskey, 794,219,128,124gauge01=debralt, 103,962,106,106gauge02=Extra-300!Starter, -3,1044,42,36gauge03=BELL_206B.CLOCK, 44,689,105,104gauge04=RealityXP_NavSW!SW_AP, 357,584,12,30gauge05=FPDA_Dummy_Switch_1, 980,844,12,26gauge06=FPDA_Dummy_Switch_1, 377,928,12,27gauge07=RealityXP_AP50!AP50, 687,760,175,175gauge08=deb!Battery Switch, 50,1032,37,31gauge09=RealityXP_NavSW!SW_DME, 404,584,12,30gauge10=deb!Vertical Speed Indicator, 487,796,123,130gauge11=deb!NAV GPS Switch, 398,921,48,38gauge12=deb!RMI, 12,772,153,153gauge13=deb!Altimeter, 486,644,144,144gauge14=bendix_king.adf.model_a, 221, 960 ,114,112gauge15=deb!Horizontal Situation Indicator, 336,796,130,123gauge16=b333!Tachometer, 878,574,136,136gauge17=simicons!ATC Icon, 667,870,20,17gauge18=simicons!GPS Icon, 667,854,20,17gauge19=simicons!ECU Icon, 667,806,20,17gauge20=deb!Turn Coordinator, 168,787,138,129gauge21=storm, 344,959,142,116gauge22=cessna208!VOR, 500,957,114,112gauge23=b33mp, 691,573,144,143gauge24=RwyInfo!V1, 529,931,47,13gauge25=deb!Attitude Indicator, 315,641,164,151gauge26=b33asi, 166,652,132,130gauge27=simicons!Kneeboard Icon, 575,929,20,20gauge28=b33simicons!Avionics Icon, 667,838,20,17gauge29=b33simicons!Collective Icon, 667,822,20,17gauge30=RealityXP_NavSW!SW_RMI, 451,584,12,30gauge31=simicons!Map Icon, 595,929,20,20gauge32=RealityXP_AP50!AP_Switch, 310,584,12,30gauge33=deb!Aileron Trim, 814,989,104,84gauge34=deb!Instrument Air, 85,625,67,66gauge35=Deb!Flaps Switch, 716,969,56,98gauge36=Deb!Gear Lever, 942,966,56,107gauge37=RealityXP_Lights!LG_VAC1, 828,676,39,38gauge38=RealityXP_Lights!LG_BAT1, 452,928,22,19gauge39=RealityXP_Lights!LG_VAC2, 481,927,21,22gauge40=RealityXP_EGT!EGT, 870,820,89,92gauge41=RealityXP_OMI!OMI, 482,566,146,62gauge42=deb!Left Alternator Switch, 61,1005,34,27//--------------------------------------------------------[Window01]file=rad.bmp file_1024=rad.bmp size_mm=2041,1840window_size_ratio=1.000 position=8visible=0ident=RADIO_STACK_PANELwindow_size= 0.995, 0.996window_pos= 0.000, 0.000gauge00=bendix_king_radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF, 776,1640,622,83gauge01=bendix_king_radio!Bendix-King Radio DME, 777,1562,621,81gauge02=b333!Tachometer, 414,838,261,260gauge03=b33mp, 18,831,280,278gauge04=beech.suction_s, 1794,1113,196,196gauge05=FPDA_Dummy_Switch_1, 601,1397,25,60gauge06=simicons!ATC Icon, 3,1389,40,40gauge07=simicons!GPS Icon, 3,1350,40,40gauge08=simicons!ECU Icon, 3,1273,40,40gauge09=simicons!Kneeboard Icon, 3,1429,40,40gauge10=bendix_king_radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 777,1332,620,118gauge11=bendix_king_radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 2, 777,1445,619,122gauge12=bendix_king_radio!Bendix-King Radio Xpndr, 776,1719,622,116gauge13=b33simicons!Avionics Icon, 3,1309,40,41gauge14=simicons!Map Icon, 3, 1469 ,38,40gauge15=bendix_king_radio!Bendix-King Radio Audio, 777,1259,619,79gauge16=b33whiskey, 223,110,241,252gauge17=RealityXP_AP50!AP50, 43,1205,329,372gauge18=deb!Aileron Trim, 278,1675,172,164gauge19=Deb!Gear Lever, 545,1632,126,192gauge20=Deb!Flaps Switch, 44,1632,130,198gauge21=RealityXP_Lights!LG_VAC1, 294,1053,93,92gauge22=RealityXP_EGT!EGT, 399,1345,154,158gauge23=mx20gps!gps, 778,845,616,408//--------------------------------------------------------[Window02]file=gps-195.bmp file_1024=gps-195.bmp size_mm=380,1000window_size_ratio=1.000 position=0visible=0ident=GPS_PANELwindow_size= 0.181, 0.552window_pos= 0.740, 0.440gauge00=kln90bro!apupdn, 137,258,83,103gauge01=gpsmap195!gps, -1,1,381,972//--------------------------------------------------------[Window03]file=newbottom.bmp file_1024=newbottom.bmp size_mm=913,213window_size_ratio=1.000 position=0visible=0ident=THROTTLE_PANELwindow_size= 0.960, 0.210window_pos= 0.040, 0.790gauge00=Mooney_Bravo!Left Fuel, 83,15,63,46gauge01=Mooney_Bravo!Oil Pressure, 142,15,63,46gauge02=Mooney_Bravo!CHT, 202,15,63,47gauge03=Mooney_Bravo!Oil Temperature, 262,15,63,47gauge04=Mooney_Bravo!Amps, 323,14,63,47gauge05=Mooney_Bravo!Right Fuel, 384,14,63,47gauge06=Mooney_Bravo!Flaps Switch, 671,25,38,42gauge07=Mooney_Bravo!Gear Lever, 733,26,25,47gauge08=b33Thr, 575,106,43,50gauge09=b33Mix, 559,148,51,54gauge10=b33pro, 642,107,36,44gauge11=deb!Left Fuel Pump Switch, 610,108,22,29gauge12=Beech_Baron!Strobe Lights, 783,23,19,52gauge13=Beech_Baron!Beacon Lights, 801,23,16,52gauge14=Beech_Baron!Nav Lights, 816, 23 ,14,52gauge15=Beech_Baron!Panel Lights, 20,25,19,52gauge16=Beech_Baron!Taxi Lights, 829,23,16,52gauge17=Beech_Baron!Landing Lights, 844,23,16,52gauge18=beech_baron!Pitot Icing Switch, 873,23,25,52gauge19=mooney_bravo!Fuel Selector, 3,158,46,45gauge20=beech_baron!Pitch Trim, 517,103,30,106//--------------------------------------------------------[Window04]file=radio.bmp file_1024=radio.bmp size_mm=335,552window_size_ratio=1.000 position=8visible=0ident=COLLECTIVE_PANELwindow_size= 0.325, 0.876window_pos= 0.675, 0.124gauge00=bendix_king_radio!Bendix-King Radio DME, -3,408,339,49gauge01=bendix_king_radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF, -4,457,339,48gauge02=bendix_king_radio!Bendix-King Radio Xpndr, -3,504,339,47gauge03=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 0,289,336,61gauge04=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 2, -2,349,338,61gauge05=bendix_king_radio!Bendix-King Radio Audio, -1,246,337,44gauge06=mx20gps!gps, 0,0,333,246//--------------------------------------------------------[Fixed Window30]file=Forward_Left.bmp position=7visible=0ident=30render_3d_window=1nomenu=1window_size= 1.000, 1.000window_pos= 0.000, 0.000//--------------------------------------------------------[Fixed Window31]file=Left.bmp position=7visible=0ident=31render_3d_window=1nomenu=1window_size= 1.000, 1.000window_pos= 0.000, 0.000//--------------------------------------------------------[Fixed Window32]file=Rear_Left.bmp position=7visible=0ident=32render_3d_window=1nomenu=1window_size= 1.000, 1.000window_pos= 0.000, 0.000//--------------------------------------------------------[Fixed Window33]file=rear.bmp position=7visible=0ident=33render_3d_window=1nomenu=1window_size= 1.000, 1.000window_pos= 0.000, 0.000//--------------------------------------------------------[Fixed Window34]file=Rear_Right.bmp position=7visible=0ident=34render_3d_window=1nomenu=1window_size= 1.000, 1.000window_pos= 0.000, 0.000//--------------------------------------------------------[Fixed Window35]file=Right.bmp window_size_ratio=1.000 position=7visible=0ident=35render_3d_window=1nomenu=1window_size= 1.000, 1.000window_pos= 0.000, 0.000//--------------------------------------------------------[Fixed Window36]file=Forward_right.bmp position=7visible=0ident=36render_3d_window=1nomenu=1window_size= 1.000, 1.000window_pos= 0.000, 0.000Day=255,255,255Night=225,117,89Luminous=220,220,220[Default View]X=0Y=0SIZE_X=8191SIZE_Y=3311================================================Barry

[Guest artl]

That is not exactly the version that is in the library as "patch 1.5"In general it is the same... there are some minor differences in the "VIEWS" section: Patch 1.5 has: VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=0,RADIO_STACK_PANEL,GPS_PANEL,THROTTLE_PANEL,COLLECTIVE_PANELVIEW_FORWARD_DIR=7.0, 0.0, 0.0VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_WINDOWS=36VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_ZOOM=6.5VIEW_RIGHT_WINDOWS=35VIEW_RIGHT_ZOOM=3.5VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_WINDOWS=34VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_ZOOM=3.5VIEW_REAR_WINDOWS=33VIEW_REAR_ZOOM=0.0VIEW_REAR_LEFT_WINDOWS=32VIEW_REAR_LEFT_ZOOM=1.5VIEW_LEFT_WINDOWS=31VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_WINDOWS=30VIEW_UP_WINDOWS=37VIEW_UP_DIR=0.0, 0.0, 0.0plus patch 1.5 has the extra "Vcockpit01" and 02 sections, which are not used,I guess, but were the source of my problem.By the way, it may only be me, but anything inside square brackets,such as section headings, disappear completely from AVSIM posts.Art.

[Geofa 108]

Well I'll be the first to confess I don't know what the deal is-but if your problem got solved I am glad.Here is the process:Upload file to avsim with assumption after testing everything is fine. Start forward on other projects (virtual cockpit etc.) -three days later get a problem from this person or that. Try to reinstall what they have, different configs., etc. end up with part of the new and part of the old.In any case-if you have the vc-it is part of the new-sorry if it caused a problem.Hopefully coming out with the new not too long in the future and then all will be well-for a couple days. :-)http://members.telocity.com/~geof43/geofanim2.gif

[Guest artl]

Problems, errors, whatever..., it is still a great plane for thesim.... Yeah... the two vcockpit sections are in the 1.5 patch, and I assume if I had the problem, others might, too, so thought I'd let them know.No progress on creeping RPM, yet. The Cessna 182RG in the libraryalso creeps, but not as pronounced... slower and stops somewherearound 1500. However, after racing its engine to 2400 or whatever,and pulling right back, it takes a long time to come back.... SoI feel the deb is not alone.One thing... in the "propeller" section you have fixed_pitch_beta=20.000 while the other a/c all have 0.000Changing it doesn't seem to have any effect, but I was justwondering if a) you were aware of the difference, and :( ifyou knew why :-)Art.