Staggerwing panels

[Guest fu3]

Arrrgh! The confusion :-eekI thought of doing an offset panel, but due to panel size constrictions, I'm thinking that the window area left over isn't enough. So, here are 2 F3 panels, one straight-on with radios, one offset without. http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/159060.jpgAs you can see, you don't get much extra instrument usability with the offset view, and you get somewhat less 3D view :-( http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/159061.jpgIn the straight-on version, you can see everything at a glance AND a good overall 3D view, albeit with a strip down the middle. This also allows me to save the 'extra view' for the switch panel I wanted to do.Here's the (offset) F2 view, although I could zoom out a bit and get another row of instruments, but then the radios appear and what to do with them? If they're on the panel, they gotta work ;-)http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/159062.jpgAs for the struts, I can't really lose them, otherwise we may as well just use the P51 panel :-roll To be honest, I've spent too long already with CPD moving instruments around to do set of previews, so I'd rather get some other opinions before proceeding - or you'll get like what's here ;-) And yes, this is holding me up big time...Regards,Jon Pointhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/159063.gif

[Christopher Low 5,353]

Jon,I appreciate you sending me a beta copy of the Staggerwing. Unfortunately, I have been far too busy with my comet project lately to even THINK about having a fly around in FU3 (although I would make an exception with the Saab 340) ;-)To be honest, I'm not a big fan of "tail draggers", and I never actually fly them in FU3.Chris Low.

[Guest fu3]

Chris,Comet? If not a taildragger, it's one of the most elegant airliners conceived - if 5-10 years too early...OK, it's probably something else!I can give you a '340 but the cockpit isn't finished - still :-rollRegards,Jon Point

[Christopher Low 5,353]

Jon,The "comets" that I am referring to are of the "Halley's Comet" kind :-)Chris Low.

[Guest Staggerwing]

Make it easy on yourself Jon.. if straight on works well and gets the project done then I'd say go for it :-) We can't always get what we want when we want it..

[Guest R_Driscoll]

Is the Staggerwing a single-seater? That would end the discussion. For me, I want to see the full T of instruments in both F2 and F3 views, a compass, and that's it. F3 should show everything, preferrably without the extra panel. But I guess its too late for that! (If its a two seater, I prefer the view biased to the left. Anyway, Glidernut's method of adding a button to access the extra panel works for me). And I like a good view forward - I'm a scenery flyer not a transoceanic heavy.But build it for yourself (Glidernut's advice!) - if you're happy with it then generally others will too.Robert.

[Guest CaptRolo]

I agree with Staggerwing , Do what you feel comfortable with . Both look good CaptRolo

[Guest fu3]

** Update **These are still unfinished but the basic layout is there. F2 taxi viewhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/159421.jpgF2 flying viewhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/159422.jpgF3 taxi (!!?!) view :-lolhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/159423.jpgF3 flying viewhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/159424.jpgI might still lose the strut in the F2 view I think :-roll We still have F1 for a clearer view ;-)Regards,Jon Point

[Guest fu3]

Dear All,1. I have dropped the left-hand strut in the F2 view. It was nigh impossible to see where you're going on left turns (it's already virtually impossible to see where you're going to the right - this is why modern small aircraft have flat engines, flat cowls and tricycle gear) :-( Actually, tri-gear is great anyway, but the Staggerwing doesn't need it - in the 'pioneering spirit' of the 30's, all crew AND passengers are required to hold their butts until the taxi run to the FBO :-lol2. I have changed to the Bravo as a base, away from the P51. There were some cockpit issues that were easier ignored (by changing base aircraft) than dealt with ;-) It will make no difference in the long run, apart from the Bravo's resfile being a bit larger. 3. In doing this, I also 'perfected' a method of building aircraft from a script, which would make the entire Staggerwing upload about 1.5Meg!! The only issue is that one still needs to drive Resviewer - and import the flight model. I 'upgraded' the Bravo to a Staggerwing in about 10 minutes, and most of that was waiting :-roll Probably useless for complete aircraft distribution, but easier for testers ;-) ;-) ;-)Regards,Jon Point

[Guest R_Driscoll]

Good visibility with F2 view, but the F3 view is very nice. Couldn't see the drinks dispenser or coffee holder though. Guess you're leaving the essentials to last, eh?(JUST joking!! - FOR GOODNESS SAKES JON DON'T ADD THEM!!!)

[Guest fu3]

OK, I won't ;-)Current (final) layouts:F2 viewhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/159771.jpgF2 view (on the ground with the tail down)http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/159772.jpgF3 viewhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/159773.jpgEnough cockpit views, all nicely tucked away after an enjoyable evening's flying. Close the door and turn off the light, will you Rob?http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/159774.jpg:-waveRegards,Jon Point