CARENADO B120 P3D/FSX

Hi,

Any info on this bird especially on power spool up/down time. For some reason I noticed some unrealistic behavior on their turboprop airplanes.

Any information is greatly appreciated.

5 hours ago, killthespam said:

Hi,

Any info on this bird especially on power spool up/down time. For some reason I noticed some unrealistic behavior on their turboprop airplanes.

Any information is greatly appreciated.

You will notice unrealistic behavior on all there aircraft.  Nature of the beast.  

Thanks, I have two of their turboprops and for some reason they are not quite well on power spool up/down time especially compared to MJC8 Q400.

@killthespam, suggest checking out the Carenado forum here at avsim.  

@killthespam  FYI, startup spool up is only realistic in Alabeo/Carenado turboprops since they have been specifically designed for P3D. A few older ones have been 'retro-fitted' 

On 10/10/2019 at 5:21 AM, FDEdev said:

@killthespam  FYI, startup spool up is only realistic in Alabeo/Carenado turboprops since they have been specifically designed for P3D. A few older ones have been 'retro-fitted' 

No, Carenados engine simulation is simply not realistic, in no aircraft. I tried their recent Brasilia and refunded it because simply NOTHING worked like it should. Carenado is eye candy, nothing more.

16 hours ago, AirbusCG said:

 

No, Carenados engine simulation is simply not realistic, in no aircraft. I tried their recent Brasilia and refunded it because simply NOTHING worked like it should. Carenado is eye candy, nothing more.

I get the feeling FDEdev is Carenado's fde designer.... Any truth to that, FDEdev?

On 10/14/2019 at 12:48 AM, rightseat said:

I get the feeling FDEdev is Carenado's fde designer.... Any truth to that, FDEdev?

More their FDE advisor than designer.  Concerning AirbusCGs comment that 'Carenados engine simulation is simply not realistic, in no aircraft', is of course nonsense.

20 hours ago, FDEdev said:

More their FDE advisor than designer.  Concerning AirbusCGs comment that 'Carenados engine simulation is simply not realistic, in no aircraft', is of course nonsense.

Thanks for clearing that up. 🙂

On 10/15/2019 at 7:20 AM, FDEdev said:

More their FDE advisor than designer.  Concerning AirbusCGs comment that 'Carenados engine simulation is simply not realistic, in no aircraft', is of course nonsense.

Proof it, for example with a startup video of one of the affected planes. There are plenty for the ATR and guess what: The Carenado is simply totally off in every aspect. 😉
But of course a Carenado guy will say different, else how would you justify that price for some eye candy?

6 hours ago, AirbusCG said:

Proof it, for example with a startup video of one of the affected planes. There are plenty for the ATR and guess what: The Carenado is simply totally off in every aspect. 😉
But of course a Carenado guy will say different, else how would you justify that price for some eye candy?

Unfortunately all these people (like FDEdev) instead of accepting that there are certain issues and find a solution or a fix they prefer to get in unproductive discussions.

That's why I asked that specific question, the word is out there in the sim community that there is a problem with many of their airplanes and is getting to the point where certain people (like myself and you, real pilots that we have hours under our belt in these airplanes) don't want to spend the money on a product like this, especially  when one of their  advisors makes statements like this "spool up is only realistic in Alabeo/Carenado turboprops", 

Having said this, I purchased a few of their Carenado turboprops DO 228-100, S360 and S340 and all of them suffer from the same issue with engine simulation (especially spool-up time during normal power changes). Yes they look nice but...................

The -8 q400 engine performance and characteristics are right on the money and their attitude towards customer is totally different.

30 minutes ago, killthespam said:

Unfortunately all these people (like FDEdev) instead of accepting that there are certain issues and find a solution or a fix they prefer to get in unproductive discussions.

That's why I asked that specific question, the word is out there in the sim community that there is a problem with many of their airplanes and is getting to the point where certain people (like myself and you, real pilots that we have hours under our belt in these airplanes) don't want to spend the money on a product like this, especially  when one of their  advisors makes statements like this "spool up is only realistic in Alabeo/Carenado turboprops", 

Having said this, I purchased a few of their Carenado turboprops DO 228-100, S360 and S340 and all of them suffer from the same issue with engine simulation (especially spool-up time during normal power changes). Yes they look nice but...................

The -8 q400 engine performance and characteristics are right on the money and their attitude towards customer is totally different.

If you ask me, it simply feels like Carenado/Alabeo would reuse all their systems 1:1 and simply give them a slightly different look per airplane. The code, and especially the bugs, are 1:1 the same.

I told them over a year ago how the speed mode in the AP needs to work and it still has the same flaws it had back then in every new airplane they release.

4 hours ago, killthespam said:

...one of their  advisors makes statements like this "spool up is only realistic in Alabeo/Carenado turboprops", 

If you feel the need to quote only parts of my posts, it would be nice if you would do that without completely changing the meaning of what I've actually wrote.

@AirbusCG, you wrote that no Carenado aircraft has a realistic engine simulation and you mentioned just a single one. That's not quite 'all' since there are 93... 

over and out.

3 hours ago, FDEdev said:

If you feel the need to quote only parts of my posts, it would be nice if you would do that without completely changing the meaning of what I've actually wrote.

@AirbusCG, you wrote that no Carenado aircraft has a realistic engine simulation and you mentioned just a single one. That's not quite 'all' since there are 93... 

over and out.

yeah, I'm not wasting my time to proove it for all of them.
If you pay me 100€ I'll find and proove another ten. Deal?

With all due respect, if that's true I can see some conflict of interest ( but you need to prove the accusation, and even if is true, the problem is still there).

Your accusation does not fix the problem described!

At the same time there are many complains from the customers about this issue regarding unrealistic spool up/down time on their turboprop airplanes.

It took you about 10 days to get interested in "one person" versus spending time to find a fix for the issue and help who you working for and the sim community. 

Usually when somebody finds an issue with a product, they go about to fix it and apologize (especially when there are so many complains about this very particular issue on the net).

I do hope that this "breaking news"  you found is not the company position you work for, hopefully that the company is mature enough to fix this issue versus pretending that everything is ok.