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    PMDG B737-700 for MSFS -- released


    Bob Scott

    PMDG has released the fifth re-make of its iconic Boeing B737 add-on, this time for Asobo's MSFS platform.  This first release in the MSFS 737 series includes the B737-700, the Boeing Business Jet (BBJ1), and the B737 BDSF cargo variant.  Future standalone releases are planned for the B737-600, B737-800, and B737-900 series aircraft--each will be a standalone, separately sold and priced add-on rather than an expansion to a base add-on as in the past.

    Details at https://pmdg.com

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    Buyers be aware.
     
    While this MSFS 2020 is a flight simulator platform with many issues, especially aircraft dynamics, this 737 PMDG release suffers from many challenges (bugs) carried over from previous versions that are still not attended. 
    Unfortunately, if a customer happens to point out deficiencies about the PMDG, is met with strong resistance, and most importantly,  if there is a disagreement or misunderstanding that doesn't sit well with the CEO of this company instead of a professional answer you might end up with warnings as such "infractions", "reputation penalties", "you are welcome to show yourself the door" or "I don't want you as a PMDG customer".
    Very disappointing and unprofessional.
     
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    I have actually received an infraction when I have pointed out what their price model looks like in a broader context 😄 That you will pay almost double of what you would pay at P3D for all the variants.

    Expected price for all the variants for MSFS 

    737-700 - 70 USD
    737-600 - 50 USD
    737-800 - 70 USD
    737-900 - Was not announced, but let's say that it will cost 50 USD like the -600
    Total: around 240 USD 

    Price for all the variants for P3D 
    NGXu Base Package - 100 USD
    600/700 Expansion - 25 USD
    Cargo Expansion - 30 USD
    BBJ Expansion - 30 USD
    Total: 185 USD

    And I was branded a "misinformation campaigner" for pointing out that them saying, this is a pro-customer move, is a lie, and a misleading marketing move.

    Welcome to the PMDG, everyone 😄

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    kevinh

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    On 6/7/2022 at 1:37 PM, LRBS said:
    Buyers be aware.
     
    While this MSFS 2020 is a flight simulator platform with many issues, especially aircraft dynamics, this 737 PMDG release suffers from many challenges (bugs) carried over from previous versions that are still not attended. 
    Unfortunately, if a customer happens to point out deficiencies about the PMDG, is met with strong resistance, and most importantly,  if there is a disagreement or misunderstanding that doesn't sit well with the CEO of this company instead of a professional answer you might end up with warnings as such "infractions", "reputation penalties", "you are welcome to show yourself the door" or "I don't want you as a PMDG customer".
    Very disappointing and unprofessional.
     

    Their forum shows there are plenty of criticisms of products with no warnings and little resistance. Have you considered the possibility that it might have been the way you criticised things, not the criticism as such?

    They said the -700 was an early access product and still in development. Stuff is being fixed. Features are being added. There's no need for buyers to be aware of issues.

    Some people don't like the way the PMDG forum is run. That's fair criticism. But it's PMDG's forum and if you want to join you need to do so on their terms. If you don't join you can still get support directly with PMDG.

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    On 6/7/2022 at 6:24 PM, DarrianCZE said:

    I have actually received an infraction when I have pointed out what their price model looks like in a broader context 😄 That you will pay almost double of what you would pay at P3D for all the variants.

    Expected price for all the variants for MSFS 

    737-700 - 70 USD
    737-600 - 50 USD
    737-800 - 70 USD
    737-900 - Was not announced, but let's say that it will cost 50 USD like the -600
    Total: around 240 USD 

    Price for all the variants for P3D 
    NGXu Base Package - 100 USD
    600/700 Expansion - 25 USD
    Cargo Expansion - 30 USD
    BBJ Expansion - 30 USD
    Total: 185 USD

    And I was branded a "misinformation campaigner" for pointing out that them saying, this is a pro-customer move, is a lie, and a misleading marketing move.

    Welcome to the PMDG, everyone 😄

    Hi,

    To be accurate 370, not 240, is double 185. 240 is a 30% increase from 185.

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    On 6/7/2022 at 7:37 PM, LRBS said:
    Buyers be aware.
     
    While this MSFS 2020 is a flight simulator platform with many issues, especially aircraft dynamics, this 737 PMDG release suffers from many challenges (bugs) carried over from previous versions that are still not attended. 
    Unfortunately, if a customer happens to point out deficiencies about the PMDG, is met with strong resistance, and most importantly,  if there is a disagreement or misunderstanding that doesn't sit well with the CEO of this company instead of a professional answer you might end up with warnings as such "infractions", "reputation penalties", "you are welcome to show yourself the door" or "I don't want you as a PMDG customer". five nights at freddy's 2
    Very disappointing and unprofessional.
     

    Thanks for your sharing. 

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    I have been using PMDG products since 2005, and find them to be top quality and easy to use. the New B737 700 and 600 so have some bugs in them however PMDG is working on correcting and updating the product and they are improving with each update.  Any new product is going to have bugs in it and a good manufacturer will correct them and come out with a good product if they are a descent company.

    I have always had good responses from the PMDG staff and users of the their products and they are happy to help out a fellow simmer to correct his issues and problems.

    From my experience they have the most accurate Add on's on the market.  If you will just sit down and give them a good honest try I think you will have a very enjoyable time with PMDG Aircraft.   Also the 737 for MSFS 2020 is a new venture for them and they are having to learn Mocrosoft/ASOBO's system and adapt to it, it is taking some time but they have come a long way, and the product is improving every day.

    If you will work with the PMDG people in a cooperative and civil way you will find them very helpful.  However any developer is going to get defensive if you attack them.

    In my book PMDG is the best thing going in the Flight Simulator Community, Their product outshines all the others, and there are some good addon/simulaltor products out there.

    My Opinion.

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    On 6/7/2022 at 7:37 AM, LRBS said:
    Buyers be aware.
     
    While this MSFS 2020 is a flight simulator platform with many issues, especially aircraft dynamics, this 737 PMDG release suffers from many challenges (bugs) carried over from previous versions that are still not attended. 
    Unfortunately, if a customer happens to point out deficiencies about the PMDG, is met with strong resistance, and most importantly,  if there is a disagreement or misunderstanding that doesn't sit well with the CEO of this company instead of a professional answer you might end up with warnings as such "infractions", "reputation penalties", "you are welcome to show yourself the door" or "I don't want you as a PMDG customer".
    Very disappointing and unprofessional.
     

    Indeed.  PMDG is all about hyping their products as being the ultimate in systems depth and realism, but ferociously adamant about sweeping the bugs under the rug and attacking anyone who points them out.   I refuse to ever buy another PMDG product again.  And rest assured, there most certainly are alternatives to PMDG like the Fenix Airbus that have the same systems depth but without being riddled with bugs.  

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    I'm apparently a "misinformation campaigner" too, lol.  Glad there are more of us out there.   🤪  I really feel like PMDG's days are numbered as MSFS2020 progresses and competitors supplant the market with higher quality products.   It will be a good thing to leave PMDG behind in the waste bin along with P3D.   

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