carlito777

As the topic says. But the Aerosoft server is already down...

The results of the 6900 XT are simply false. I extensively tested the 6900 XT against the 3080 and it performs on par or even a bit better than the 3080. You can see my test results here on the forum.

That‘s great news. I have been exclusively flying the version with the custom fly-by-wire in the last couple of weeks and love it. However, the autopilot is driving me nuts at times.

Thanks. I already joined their Discord channel long ago. Nevertheless, even there I cannot find what is included in which version. The progress page is only updated sporadically and I don't have time to read through all the chats.

The FBW A320 is great, but lately I get completely confused about what is in the works and what is already included in the dev version. I have seen YouTube videos of all kinds of features (custom autopilot, ground service control via FlyTab, custom throttle system, etc.) but don't find any of these features in the dev version. Seems like they are working on a thousand loose ends. Hopefully, this all makes it to the public at some time.

Ah. So you are a close friend of his and helped him make the videos? Or how can you back those claims? But I think, I get the point. Every Aerosoft product must be full of flaws and will cause a ton of CTDs. Anyways, let's just move on.

LOL. If you are referring to the videos from „The Dude“: He is a real world CRJ pilot...

I find it funny that people still believe all these claims that the SDK does not support a "study level" plane. PMDG, FSL and the likes just don't want to convert all their legacy code to the new ecosystem. That's the reason. Period. Maybe from a business point of view they think it is not worth it. To me it doesn't really matter. The PDMG f#ßb?&s can stay on P3D forever and other developers will fill the space in MSFS.

Regardless of how good it will be, there will certainly be pages and pages of complaints here on the forum. Even though I still expect a delay of the release (anyone remember the 7 year delay of the P3D version? 😂), it will be a day one purchase for me and I will enjoy it (regardless of some flaws that it will certainly have).

Same here. I hate those kinds of private sales. This always means that some customers feel neglected and poorly treated. This is a bad marketing instrument.

Don't believe all this BS from Nvidia.

You do realize that this is an approach to software development from 2 decades ago when developers still had to send out floppy disks with updates, do you?

Stop trolling and go play Prepar3D... Oh sorry. Of course not playing but simulating „as real as it gets“. 🤣

That's what people also thought about 2080ti prices. And those stayed insanely high until the 30xx series cards released. I wouldn't speculate on significant price decreases. At least not this year.

Thanks, Ted. You are very welcome. Unfortunately, I don‘t have P3Dv5. I went from P3Dv4.5 straight to MSFS. I rarely use anything else these days. (And I already sold the 3080 FE right after the tests. Took me less than 30 minutes to sell it. ;-)) Of course, it would be interesting to see how both cards perform in P3Dv5 since P3Dv5 is already DX12.

You certainly don‘t need a 3090. Don‘t believe all that BS talk. I ran 4K just fine on a GTX 1070 and was able to maintain 30 fps. It‘s all a matter of settings. Dial down render resolution to 70%. That‘s the setting with the highest impact. Clouds and reflections also eat into fps.

At least, I don’t have to work on my attitude. Been nice talking to you.

You are very welcome. I found it extremely hard to make an informed decision just based on the reviews available on YouTube or the Internet in general. Most YouTubers are not real flight simmers and don't know how to perform at least somewhat reliable benchmarking. And I was so tired of the repeated statements that 10 GB of VRAM is not enough which are purely based on hearsay. People spread this kind of information without having a clue. Not a good basis for sound decisions. Of course, if you buy a RTX 3090, you can't do no wrong. It ticks all the flightsimming boxes. But I just think that the price is ridiculous. I'm not going to throw that kind of money at NVidia if I can get a card that performs almost as good for a third less in price. The 3090 also doesn't get you above 60 fps on ultra settings. So what's the point in having 48 vs. 40 fps on average. If you cannot get over 60 fps than it is best to set the monitor to 30 Hz anyways and then a steady 30+ fps is sufficient. But that's another story. Enjoy your new system! I'm coming from a GTX 1070 which also performed decently when dialing down the settings. MSFS is capable to run very well on a wide range of hardware. It's just a matter of managing settings.

I managed to buy both of my cards directly from AMD resp. NVidia. But it took me a lot of hunting. I was following Discord channels and web communities for months to get notifications for drops. Everything is sold out in minutes if not seconds. Quite nerve-racking.

AMD is developing Fidelity FX Super Resolution together with Microsoft. I bet, this will make it to MSFS because most likely it is required to get 60 fps on 4K on XBox. I really don‘t think DLSS will ever make it to MSFS. It‘s of course a different story with other games.

Dear all, since I’m facing the decision whether to keep a RTX 3080 Founders Edition or an AMD RX 6900 XT and all the “evidence” on the Internet is quite inconclusive, I did some testing of the cards on my own. In the following, I will illustrate some of my findings as this might be interesting to some people which are facing a similar decision. Test system: i7-10700K@5.0GHz 32GB DDR4-3600 RAM OS and MSFS on SSDs Scenarios: In order to compare apples to apples, I tried to use scenarios which I could easily replicate and were not subject to unwanted variation. So for all the testing, I set the date to Jan, 15th of this year and the time to 12 noon. I used the Ultra preset in all scenarios and I’m running the sim in 4K. I also turned off all air traffic (so no AI or real time traffic). All fps and VRAM figures are from inside the cockpit. So no outside shots! I chose scenarios where I would start at the runway of a large airport (exception Courchevel and Yosemite) facing the direction of a large city and I picked the runway so that the airport buildings were in sight. All the numbers for “on runway” were recorded while sitting on the runway, ready to take off. I waited a couple of seconds before recording the numbers to let the system shake off a bit. Then I took off and maintained runway heading and leveled off at 2500-3000 feet at a speed of roughly 250 knots. That way, I flew across the city to record the “Over city” numbers. The average fps were measured from take-off until I crossed the city. In the case of KLAS, which I used as a VRAM worst case, I had to make a sharp turn to the right after take-off to fly over the city (of course ;-)). The KJFK, EGLL, KLAS and Sydney landing challenge scenarios were all flown in the stock A320. Courchevel in the TBM and Yosemite in the C172 G1000. The Yosemite scenario used an older version of the Yosemite Valley add-on from VFXSimmer and I started the scenario airborne at Half Dome and flew around Half Dome. Both graphics cards were at stock performance. No overclocking. The VRAM is usage from the dev OSD in MSFS. So this represents usage not just allocation. So here are the results: 6900 XT: RTX 3080: My key findings: The cards perform roughly the same in 4K. I really do not understand how some Youtubers and other testers on the net find that the 3080 outperforms the 6900 XT. This is just not the case. Apart from the scenarios shown here, I tested a lot of other scenarios and the 6900 XT never performed worse than the 3080. Even though the 6900 XT often uses more than 10GB of VRAM, the 3080 somehow manages to use less without performance suffering a lot. Why am I saying “a lot”? Because my very subjective impression is that the 6900 XT performs way smoother with much more even frame times. Most likely this is because it can use more VRAM. Another very subjective finding is that the 6900 XT has much sharper textures in the far distance, e.g. in mountainous terrain. Could also be, because it can load more textures into its VRAM. In the Yosemite scenario, which is also heavy on VRAM, the 3080 really struggled. The performance was choppy and some textures didn’t load at all. So Half Dome looked way better on the 6900 XT. What’s my conclusion? The 3080 can handle MSFS 2020 in 4K well. However, the 10 GB VRAM is a limitation. Not to the extent that performance tanks, but it has an impact on frame time variability and maybe also texture sharpness. Given that MSFS 2020 is going to move to DX12, I would assume that 10GBs will be even more of a problem. This is not saying that you are not able to enjoy MSFS in 4K on a 3080. It’s just that more VRAM improves the experience. The 6900 XT performs excellently in MSFS2020. The performance is always smooth and the card really seems to be up to the task at all times. Together with the fact that XBox also is based on RDNA2, I speculate that AMD graphics cards will benefit from the move to DX12 and the optimizations that are coming to MSFS 2020 in the summer. All this is the reason why I’m going to keep the 6900 XT and sell the RTX 3080. Best regards

Do you use MSFS? If yes, then at which resolution?

I will receive the 3080 today. Testing over the weekend. Then I‘ll post some results. What I can already say is that the 6900 XT does indeed use (use not just allocate!) 10-13 GB when on the runway of a large airport facing a large city (KJFK). I‘m really keen to see how the 3080 handles these scenarios.

Thanks guys. The 3090 is really no option for me. Even though the specs are perfect, but the price is ridiculous. Tomorrow I will receive the 3080 and do some testing. I'll report back.

Yeah. And the 3080ti is postponed indefinitely. Not easy these days. Especially, since I was able to buy a 3080 FE and now have to decide which card to keep (6900 XT or 3080 FE). Information on the Internet is inconclusive. Therefore, I will do my own testing. Particularly to see wether the 10 GB on the 3080 is really a problem. We'll see.