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So, following my previous visit ( https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/600032-visiting-the-china-zun-in-the-h135/ ) here's my attempt in the FlyInside Bell 47. Same exercise, and similar results - several attempts with the falling backwards thing going on, no actual crashes though. Bell settings for me are Medium but with engine damage turned off. If I ever manage to land properly with those settings then I'll consider moving up a level. Personally, I'm not interested in emulating every last bit of functionality flying the thing, I just want to be able to do my MSFS tourist bit in a helicopter that will let me take off and land where I want in amongst the scenery. I love the 47 for its appearance and its cockpit view, but I'm not bothered about systems accuracy - in fact if I have to go back to basic mode to be able to use it that'll be fine with me. I have the P3D version and that is a lot easier to manage (for me, anyway) than this one. Anyway, here's the pix - enjoy! Climbing back up after the last of my failed attempts I rather like the look of this building, it has a nice subtle design and is nicely down in this package A slow process, but we're getting there OK, let's try that again And again, this is actually fully landed on the fake surface "Hey Ma! Top of the world!"

Still trying to get a copter to land anywhere near where I'm aiming. I obviously haven't got the right feel for it yet. I can get into a reasonable approach position maybe 30% of the time, and get in to a reasonable hover about the same ratio, but what usually happens next is that as I lower the collective/throttle I end up reversing away quite rapidly, even if I've got the nose pointing down a bit. Plenty more practice needed, but hopefully it'll come in time. I'm already beginning to be able to "feel" myself into the air for lift off a lot of the time (not always, by any means) and I guess eventually the same will be true for landings. Some of the Youtube videos make it obvious that that is how it gets done in the end, bit like riding a bicycle I guess. I eventually ended up able to ride a fully loaded 1100cc Kawasaki feet up and rock steady at less than walking pace and that didn't seem likely when I started so I'm not going to let a few pixels beat me! Anyway, another one of the city packs I have is the AviaJam Beijing landmarks pack. Their stuff varies a bit in quality, but this one is a really nice pack. Smack in the middle of town is this monster of a building known as the China Zun. I'd noticed the helipad on the roof and thought I'd have a go. I made it in the end but I'll be honest, I spent probably fifteen minutes faffing around approaching, overshooting, lining up, hovering and then falling away backwards before I finally managed a not very tidy landing. Never actually lost control at least, and no crashes (no pixels were harmed in the production of these pictures), so I am definitely improving. When I did finally land, I found that the "surface" of the pad in the sim is obviously at the topmost level of the building, which is the raised corners, so although it looks like I'm hovering in the end shot I have actually landed. And just for complete disclosure, I'm running the H135 in advanced mode, and I have a CH Pro throttle/stick/pedal set for controls. So here we go - actually flew in from ZBNY to the south of the city Interesting cluster of buildings around here with lots of other helipads to explore Yes! Yes! I'm gonna make it! Came to rest a bit sooner than I'd hoped due to the inaccurate "surface" level at the top of the building. I'm actually down at this point I did the same thing again in the Bell 47 to see if that would be any easier, and I'll post a few shots from that attempt tomorrow. cheers, Andy

Ok, so, I've been playing around at the China Zun in Beijing, and then I remembered seeing a video some time back of someone landing one of the Cubs on the Statue of Liberty island in a headwind, pretty much as if it had been a Harrier. And it sparked a thought of pure idiocy. So, here I am in the Carbon Gravel, having set off from ZBNY, wearing my best Jack Nicholson grin, heading for the China Zun. Well, I figure if the worst comes to the worst, it's only pixels, right? The tricky bit (hah!) will be that the actual hard surface is elevated a good few feet off the visual surface of the helipad, as I discovered on my previous visits in the H135 and Bell 47. But it still seems like it ought to be possible, that roof looks maybe 100 feet wide and coming in slow enough with the maximum flaps might well work. My usual thing, do the flight while recording it, and then use the playback to review it and take screenshots. Som here we go . . . And there we have it. This is actually fully down (remember the surface is raised) I guess the surface is out by between 3 - 6 feet. Ok, full disclosure time. I actually misjudged the height of the landing surface and hit down too early - going nose down. The final two shots above come courtesy of slew mode. All real up till that point but the real ending was as below But I may well try again. As far as the old saw about "is it a game or a simulator?" goes, my feeling is - who cares, when you can have this much fun! cheers, Andy

Just what it says, a few shots around Beijing with the AviaJam landmarks addon (and Bijan's Seasons packs). Out from ZBAA, and heading pretty much due west planning to come down to the city centre from the north. Pretty much just following the clusters of PoI popups. I had turned them off initially when the sim came out but then discovered the Mugz mods to enable me to turn them on/off wih a keypress in flight. Now I fly, stay in the cockpit and use the POI markers to cruise around, record the flight and then go back on the replay to explore with the drone, take screenshots etc without the markers showing. It's turned in to a great little system for what I want to do. So just some generic scenery on the route west Turning south/west, city centre in the distance To the west of the city is the Summer Palace. Looks like a pleasant place to while away the summer Crossing back east to the National Stadium Then back west a bit and down over the Forbidden City, the Imperial Palace To the south of the Palace is Tiananmen Square Looking north over the Square East side of the square is the National Museum of China And to the west is the Great Hall of the People Just south of here is the Temple of Heaven Then the business district with the China Zun and other modern buildings is a little ways north and east again And away we go, off to ZBNY in the south of the city Plenty more to explore, and it'll be interesting to go take a look at the surrounding landscape - there are some scenic areas and hills to the west that might be worth a visit. And all from the comfort of my own man-cave. cheers, Andy