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  1. I cannot even see the state outlines where I am currently at... And believe I could fly coast to coast here in the USA and not see the ground except for TO and APR. And check out these headwinds toward the end of a planned Hjet flight from St Louis to Denver:
  2. WX Advantage Radar Control Bezel Removed. Are you building a mouse free flying environment or home cockpit for FSX or P3D and want to add a weather radar and GPS on to separate display’s such as the default GPS or Milviz / REX WX Advantage Radar; and then be able to control it with hardware as in real world, using digital encoders, buttons and switches? I guess like me then, you want to be able to strip away and remove the control bezel surround image, because it would not serve any useful purpose in a mouse free environment and take up valuable room on a small 7 inch display screen! There may not be many of us who have the need to achieve the above requirements, but I did and expect others do too, so this article may be what you are looking for, to help guide you through the process, which I have discovered is not a well-documented subject. Good News is that it is a relatively easy and simple task to achieve. I hope this is assistance to someone trying to get a mouse free cockpit, although there will always be something that needs to be clicked on I guess. The goal was to have a mouse free Flight Sim, which is pretty much hom my sim is now. The weather radar and GPS console is below the main monitor in front of me when I fly and the monitor sits on top of it. My Radar and GPS console. My article on how to remove the bezel from the default GPS in FSX – FSX-SE and P3D can be found at the FSDeveloper web site: - https://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/how-to-remove-the-default-gps-bezel.445436/ The FSX / P3D default GPS with the control bezel removed. Unfortunately, I have not found a way of removing the Title Bar from the undocked window. So, if anyone reading this knows how to remove the title bar and keep the drag and drop functionality of the window across multiple monitors, please post details below. On a small 7 inch screen, every pixel is a huge resource 😊 First and most importantly, I would like to say a very big thank you to the customer support desk at REX Simulations http://rexsimulations.com/radar.html and the developer from Milviz, https://milviz.com/flight/products/WXRadar/index.php without whom my goal to achieve a bezel less weather radar for my home cock pit button console would not have been possible. Thank you for all your help and support you have given to me with this project; and also a huge thank you to ScotFlieger from the Linda forum https://www.avsim.com/forums/forum/424-linda/ who has over the past years guided me in learning a bit of Lua code, his help was fundamental to my being able to accomplish, along with the help from the gents already mentioned. Second, for an excellent review of the Milviz / REX WX Advantage Weather Radar follow the link to Mutley’s Hanger: - http://forum.mutleyshangar.com/reviews/bri/bs-wxr/bs-wxr.htm The mini displays are Waveshare 7” HDMI touch screen displays (but I do not use the touch screen facility) https://www.waveshare.com/7inch-hdmi-lcd-h.htm (available on Amazon for about £60.00) There is a selection of display models to choose from, I went for the one able to be screwed to a panel as you can in the images below. Some of the models have their own outer bezels and stands. Waveshare 7 inch HDMI display This article discusses how to remove and strip away the outer bezel or frame from around the Milviz REX WX Advantage Weather Radar Display screen, leaving it clean to use on a separate display screen, see the picture below. Also, it briefly details how to assign hardware buttons or digital encoders to control it using hardware. The panel.cfg file can be edited with windows notepad, I use Notepad ++ which is a free download https://notepad-plus-plus.org/ This procedure has been tested and works, but anyone attempting this modification must do their own due diligence, I accept no liability and do not recommend editing the panel.cfg file unless you have a bit of experience and in any case ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS make a copy of the panel.cfg before altering it. Milviz REX WX Advantage Radar window, undocked with the controls and bezel removed. If you have either manually entered the WX Advantage Radar lines or used the WX Advantage Gauge Management Tool, you will need to find the panel.cfg for the aircraft you want to edit. The original panel.cfg entries must be replaced with the edited lines and added to each aircraft that you fly, if you want to have a control and bezel less radar. You can Leave the original lines intact as well and you will then be able to use the WX Advantage Radar as it has been designed to be used and use it bezel and control free. The Undocked WX Advantage Weather Radar window. You will find similar lines at the top of the panel.cfg file to the ones below, these are from the default FSX C172. [Window Titles] Window00 = Main Panel Window01 = Radio Stack Window02 = GPS Window03 = IFR Panel Window04 = Landing View Window05 = Mini Panel Window06 = WX Advantage Radar Further down you will come across the [Window01] [Window02] etc, on your way to [Window06] which is in this example, the WX Advantage Weather Radar. Note the Window numbers will most likely not be the same as in this list. For example, A2A aircraft can have 15 windows in some cases. Make the Weather Gauge the last entry to save renumbering all the windows. For example, if the last window title is Window15 = Parachute, add Window=16 as the WX Advantage Radar. [Window Title] Window00-14=”different window titles“ Window15=Parachute Window16=WX Advantage Radar Remember to number the WX Advantage Radar gauge parameters title the same i.e [Window16] Blar=xx Blar=yy I recommend reading about the panel.cfg to learn more about them first, follow the link to P3D SDK web site. http://www.prepar3d.com/SDKv2/LearningCenter/simobjects/panels_and_gauges/panel_configuration_files.html It is best to copy and paste the original entry and comment it out using two backslashes // in front of the lines to be switched off, then you have the reference starting place to revert back whilst experimenting with sizes if needs be. Below and commented out is an original WX Advantage Radar entry from my C172. //[Window06] // ORIGINAL //ident = 71 //visible = 0 //sizeable = 1 //size_mm = 419,381 //position = 0 //window_size = 0.169211195928753,0.274235708603251 //window_pos = 0.0165394402035623,0.715589975051276 //gauge00 = MV_WX!WX2D,0,0,419,381,2 //gauge01 = MV_WX!WX,64,121,291,205,2 My edited line entries to remove the controls and bezel follow next: - (feel free to copy and paste this but remember to make sure the Window numbering ) [Window06] //Edited to remove the bezel surround and controls ident = 71 visible = 0 sizeable = 1 size_mm = 292,207 //Resized window_size=0.5 position = 0 window_size = 0.343511450381679,0.556719107690809 window_pos = 0,0 //Repositioned //2D Bezel Removed line deleted gauge00 = MV_WX!WX,0,0,291,205,2 // change 64,121 to 0,0 position gauge. The panel.cfg lines above, will render the following image of the WX Advantage Radar gauge on screen. The curved triangular clickable corner image can remain or be removed. (I kind of like them in place they serve as a reminder if the hard ware fails I can still use a mouse) their appearance is controlled on the line gauge00 = MV_WX!WX,0,0,291,205,2 specifically the very last number 2 switches the clickable corners image on/off, but does not switch off the clickable control in the corners, just the rounded triangular images. The clickable corner control is in and around the grey curved triangles, see in the image below, also the images below have not been resized, the flight sim still thinks the controls and bezel are there surrounding the display screen, re size and reposition lines in the panel.cfg file still need to be edited for these images, these are so you can compare the difference between what is required by my small 7 inch HDMI monitors and the radar with a bezel and controls. WX Advantage Radar, power off, controls and bezel removed, showing the clickable control image corners. size_mm = 419,381 window_pos = 0.0165394402035623,0.715589975051276 gauge00 = MV_WX!WX,0,0,291,205,2 WX Advantage Radar, power on, controls and bezel removed, showing the clickable control corner image and radar overlay. To switch off the clickable corner image, comment out or delete the last number 2 in the line: - gauge00 = MV_WX!WX,0,0,291,205 //,2 WX Advantage Radar, power on, controls and bezel removed, showing the test screen with the clickable control corner image removed. //2 (but the clickable coordinates remain useable, just unseen now. Start the Flight Sim and load the airplane being worked on, open the WX Advantage Radar gauge window from the “View” menu in FSX or “Vehicle” menu in P3D. If the window size is not correct, change the values of size_mm=292,207. Whilst editing, its ok to leave the panel.cfg open in your text editor, but make sure to save any changes before looking for the amendments and testing the result in the flight simulator. I leave the original size but comment it out and add amended values, like this. size_mm=305,220 //292,207 It is not necessary to restart the Flight Sim after amending the panel.cfg file, just load another aircraft then reload the aircraft you are working on. In P3D I usually load the Avatar for speed. Once reloaded open the WX Advantage gauge window and see if the change is what you need, if not change the numbers slightly and repeat this process until the desired result is achieved. This is time consuming, but I hope the figures above will work for most without needing to fuss about changing them. Assuming you know a little about Lua code and Linda (Lua Integrated Non-complex Device Assigning) https://www.avsim.com/forums/forum/424-linda/ Linda handbook WX Advantage Weather Radar Lvar List for the controls. RANGE DISTANCE SELECT L var: WX_Radar_Range Range dec: 81920 (0x14000) –decrease range Range inc: 81921 (0x14001) – increase range MODE SELECT L var: WX_Radar_ModeSelect Mode dec: 81922 (0x14002) – decrease mode Mode inc: 81923 (0x14003) – increase mode TILT UP/DOWN SELECT L var: WX_Radar_Tilt Tilt dec: 81924 (0x14004) --decrease tilt Tilt inc: 81925 (0x14005) – increase tilt BRIGHTNESS SELECT L var: WX_Radar_BRT Brightness dec: 81926 (0x14006) – decrease brightness Brightness inc: 81927 (0x14007) – increase brightness RADAR GAIN LOW / HIGH L var: WX_Radar_Gain Gain dec: 81928 (0x14008) – decrease gain Gain inc: 81929 (0x14009) – increase gain ------------------------------------------ With the Lvars above, we can now programme Linda to assign a hardware control to the WX Advantage Radar. For example to control the radar range selector by a rotary digital encoder knob, use the following. The it’s a simple case of creating a new function like this for each control, remembering to use the appropriate ID event ID numbers. In this example 81921 to increase the range and 81922 to decrease the range. --## WX Advantage Radar function WX_Range_Select_inc () -- function name Def = "WX_Radar_Range" -- Lvar Var = ipc.readLvar(Def) -- Variable if Var < 5 then ipc.control(81921) -- Increase Range end end function WX_Range_Select_dec () Def = "WX_Radar_Range" Var = ipc.readLvar(Def) if Var < 6 then ipc.control(81920) -- Decrease Range end end It is outside the scope of this document to both discuss how to use Linda Lua or discuss the building of the hardware, suffice to say the Linda forum on Avsim is very good. Here is a list of the main suppliers I used . Switch Electronics: - https://www.switchelectronics.co.uk/ Leo Bodnar: - http://www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=94&products_id=180 RS Components UK: - https://uk.rs-online.com/web/ Plastic Sheets: - https://www.plasticsheets.com/ Amazon: - google it 😊
  3. I'm tried to connect to FSXWX today and I get an error message. and inside the program I can see WX data initial download failed. The error message: ee the end of this message for details on invoking just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box. ************** Exception Text ************** System.Runtime.InteropServices.COMException (0xC000014B): Exception from HRESULT: 0xC000014B at System.Runtime.InteropServices.Marshal.ThrowExceptionForHRInternal(Int32 errorCode, IntPtr errorInfo) at Microsoft.FlightSimulator.SimConnect.SimConnect.ReceiveDispatch(SignalProcDelegate pfcnSignal) at Microsoft.FlightSimulator.SimConnect.SimConnect.ReceiveMessage() at FSXWX.Form1.DefWndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.ContainerControl.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam) ************** Loaded Assemblies ************** mscorlib Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.8825 (WinRelRS3.050727-8800) CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll ---------------------------------------- FSXWX Assembly Version: 1.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 1.0.0.0 CodeBase: file:///C:/Users/M%E1t%E9/Desktop/FSXWX.exe ---------------------------------------- System.Windows.Forms Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.8825 (WinRelRS3.050727-8800) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll ---------------------------------------- System Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.8825 (WinRelRS3.050727-8800) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Drawing Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.8825 (WinRelRS3.050727-8800) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll ---------------------------------------- Accessibility Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.8825 (WinRelRS3.050727-8800) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Accessibility.dll ---------------------------------------- Microsoft.FlightSimulator.SimConnect Assembly Version: 10.0.61259.0 Win32 Version: 10.0.61637.0 (FSX-Xpack.20070926-1421) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_32/Microsoft.FlightSimulator.SimConnect/10.0.61259.0__31bf3856ad364e35/Microsoft.FlightSimulator.SimConnect.dll ---------------------------------------- msvcm80 Assembly Version: 8.0.50727.9348 Win32 Version: 8.00.50727.9348 CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/WinSxS/x86_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.9348_none_d08c1480442bf1e1/msvcm80.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Configuration Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.8825 (WinRelRS3.050727-8800) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Configuration/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Configuration.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Xml Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.8827 (WinRelRS3.050727-8800) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Core Assembly Version: 3.5.0.0 Win32 Version: 3.5.30729.8833 built by: WinRelRS3 CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Core/3.5.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Core.dll ---------------------------------------- ************** JIT Debugging ************** To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this application or computer (machine.config) must have the jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section. The application must also be compiled with debugging enabled. For example: <configuration> <system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" /> </configuration> When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer rather than be handled by this dialog box.
  4. Hi everyoneI was hoping someone could shed some light on why the cloud presentation at high altitude is so poor.I am using REX and Active Sky v6.5, but when cruising at height (approx FL200 and above) the cloud drawing is appalling, in one quadrant of the sky there will be BKN or OVC, then right next to it it will be clear skies. There seems to be very poor blending of each of the weather stations weather reports.See screen shots below. Has anyone had this/solved it/got answers?Many thanks in advance!
  5. I recently bought Active Sky Next and everything was working just fine when flying the PMDG 777 out of OMAA when FSX crashes. Nothing showed up on the Event Viewer or on AppCrashView. I decided to try that again with ASN off and everything worked just fine. Best Regards, AbdulRahman
  6. Hello there, all aspiring aviation enthusiasists! Okay, so I'am just a newbie to the AVSIM community and this is the very first topic you are reading from me. So please excuse me for my different behavior. I searched through so many different forums to answer my topic with ease, but couldn't find an answer at all. Not lying. Now lets get to the problem. While i was installing the freeware FSXWX weather engine for my Microsoft FSX boxed version with given instructions on how to correctly install it, i messed up. I was told to delete the "wxstationlist.BIN" (excluding quotes) file name with the file type extension being ".BIN" (excluding quotes) from the path: "C:\Users\Username\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\wxstationlist.BIN". But instead, the foolish brain of mine accidentally misunderstood the instructions and deleted the file in this path: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Weather\wxstationlist.BIN". And i even forgot to backup the file. But i promise to do it next time. Silly me. It will be really greatful of anyone if you can lend a helping hand to upload that 25 KB file worth of stations which sits on the path: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Weather\wxstationlist.BIN". I can't even bother trying to re-install the whole game from scratch, re-install the whole bunch of add-ons and add the tweaks and the configs back. It really takes a long time! Thanks alot!
  7. I have tried to get the weather report through the AOC menu but it never populates with any data. I use Activesky on a remote computer so could this be the issue? Thanks Keith
  8. Any change for a update to get FALE in Active Sky Evolution for FS9 ?Thx David
  9. These first five screenshots were captured during segments of a flight from Ft Myers, Florida, to Hilton Head, South Carolina, as I get my leased Kodiak 100, two-sixty-two Pappa, in position to begin a Caribbean trek. The weather started just south of Lakeland and continued until past Gainesville. Some incredible clouds, caught between layers at 9,000 ft. Looks like a vortex in the center of this shot, off behind the tail. Some stunning cloud formations and color. Looking more ominous despite tbe break off the right wing. I chose 9,000 ft to stay under reported icing conditions and above light to moderate chop reported at lower altitudes. Man! Talk about picking your way through.... Probably good that I was flying alone.... Finally breaking out into cleaner air between Gainesville and Jacksonville, Florida A look at the mouth of the Fort George River in the Nassau River-St. Johns River Marshes Aquatic Preserve north of Jacksonville, Florida, and just below the Florida-Georgia border. A view in the background of the snaking branches of the Mackay River between Brunswick and St Simon's Island along the coast of Georgia. Tomorrow I will be boarding an Allegiant flight from Hilton Head to Baltimore to get home, then packing and making other preparations. Then I will fly my wife and another couple to Hilton Head in my Turbo Bonanza. We will golf for a couple of days near Hilton Head. Then we will hop in the Kodiak and head back to Ft Myers to pick up two other "simulated" couples. That will be a quick stop, then on to Key West for a couple of days of golfing there before heading down to the Cayman Islands to begin the trek.
  10. I released a x64 build version of my Wx radar gauge to fit the P3D v4 SDK. It currently works with the AS16/ASP4 Beta version from HiFi. You can download the gauge here: https://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=p3dgau&DLID=200102 Please use this thread for any question, report, or VC integration solution: http://forum.avsim.net/topic/459050-another-radar-gauge-for-vc-window-usage/?view=getnewpost I hope you will find it usefull.
  11. I never expected it to know about the fires burning around Los Angeles but lo & behold Active Sky has visibility down to 7 miles with a general haze the entire flight from KSMO to KPOC. Yeah, I know, it is only showing what local ATIS is using but still, compared to the built "real world Jeppesen" updates it is an order of magnitude better.
  12. Using AS16 and have loaded flightplan etc, set it to create and download wx file in p3d in the PMDG settings, the file appears in the WX folder in the PMDG 777 main folder. However it displays weather forecast uplink available in the FMC but when I press the request button it just says request sent and nothing loads. Anyone able to help with this. Thanks Chris.
  13. No airfield, no runway. Only the sunset and the sea. This short flight start at Bering Glacier airfield, following the shore to the end of Kaiak Island to reach Pinnacle Rock. After several passes through the obelisk, I finished with a extreme landing on the stony beach. Flying a Cessna C185F Skywagon by Carenado Software componetnts in this video: + Microsoft Flight Simulator + Plan-G Flight Planer + ORBX NA Southern Alaska + Misty Moorings + FSRecorder + Fraps + Movie Maker + Lightworks Sound track: + Bustin Loose - Audionautix + Hills - Riot + Alexandria - Marco Polo + Dark Inside - Seastock
  14. Well, my live weather is is dysfunctional. Whenever I go to start a flight, the wind @ my starting point is always the same 270 degrees @ 4kts. I don't recall this being an issue before the most recent patch. Anyone else having this issue? Any Ideas for a fix?
  15. Does anyone know how to get an accurate in-flight report of the actual weather in the sim? With live weather, you can't get any weather info from the sim and external software like Simtoolkitpro shows real world weather, which isn't always the same as live weather in the sim. In my FS2004 days I used a program called FSdat for this.
  16. Let's say I want to attempt VFR flight at minimums. Is there a way for me to specify an exact three statute mile visibility in the weather options? I have not found a way to do this yet. I can mimic it with low cloud layers of varying density and coverage, but I'm never sure what the exact visibility is. Thank you
  17. This is from during my departure from Lincoln, Nebraska, on Tuesday afternoon of this week. The University of Nebraska is below, with its Memorial Stadium (football) under the left wing. The color of my Robert Young Turbo Bonanza (RYTB) a stark contrast to the monochromatic look of winter below. Bijan's Four Seasons package is in use here along with MSFS Live Weather. You can just feel the cold! And here is a few minutes later over southeast Nebraska. At 7,000 ft my OAT was -16°C.
  18. OK. Here is a call for yet another new 3rd party mod..... At least it did not come to the ground in front of the hangar!
  19. Okay, the plan was to make the first sim flight of 2021 be a 'nice little earner' for my Madagascar-based Air Hauler 2 MSFS company - Indian Trader... 'So, you'll pay me nearly 25 Grand to fly 3,380 lbs of cigarettes to a small airfield about 800 miles to the north west of here so long as they arrive in less than 31 hours, that about right Chief?' 'That's right...' 'Okay then, I'm your man.' So then, that's a fully loaded Beech 350 departing from a 4,000 foot runway which is 1,150 feet above sea level and there is no fuel available at the departure or arrival airport, then flying to Selinda just south of the Zambezi, which is at an elevation of 3,100 feet and has a poxy short runway, no tower, and only a few NDBs a few miles away to help you get there, but there are a few larger airports in the region if you need to divert. Weather looks okay at the moment, potentially a bit stormy nearer the destination but nothing too bad although with the destination at over 3,000 feet above sea level, the cloud base might potentially be a problem. Off we go then. Let's use every inch of runway for this one then... Easy peasy, and the weather looks pretty good at the moment. This one is money in the bank... Hmm, it's getting a bit cloudier up north and if it gets much worse than this, I might have trouble letting down near the destination... Uh oh, now there are thunder clouds building up. Still, we should be able to thread through them... Commencing the descent, it seems it's pretty cloudy... Good job the Beech is equipped with a radar altimeter, so I decide to steer for the nearby lake and descend no lower than 500 feet AGL to see if it looks like we can make it into Selinda. I can only hope that the nearby airport with the rather rude ICAO code of FYKU isn't trying to tell me something... Over the lake we can at least now see the terrain, but the ceiling is really marginal... I decide to take a look whilst on the runway heading and see how feasible it is... Not chancing that, so I set off for a clearer area weather wise. So much for a nice easy earner, but there was no way I was going to try landing in that with no nav aids to help at all and a ceiling which was nearly all the way down to the surface. Thus it was back up into the clouds and then above them and off to somewhere nicer with hopefully either an ILS or a nice clear ceiling for a visual approach.
  20. Hi Dave, When flying my last couple flights, the weather at the arrival airport has change, specifically the wind direction. If I click on the P2A WX button it correctly provides the new wind direction and speed. However, ATC still takes me into the original approach runway based on the weather it used when filing the flight plan. Is it possible to manually get P2A to change the approach runway to match wind direction, or is there something that I have not set, which would make it automatically do this. If this is in your manual, then I have missed it as I did try and look for this type of setting before asking yourself. Kind Regards, Ted.
  21. Folks, If you want to see some bad weather go to Houston, KIAH. I am using AS2016, and P3D v4, About as real as it gets! Yesterday, the turbulence was severe, lightning in all quads. Was flying the B747. Jerry Friz
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