July 23, 200322 yr I could not find any threads about this after a brief search in here...Everytime I start up with a dead plane, for some reason the ATC doesn`t work right. The frequencies changes on the radios, but there is no sound. Resetting the flight does not solve it. On several occasions, I have fixed this by deleting saved situations and started new with a "hot" plane.
July 24, 200322 yr Hi Andrew,Same problem here. Apparently the avionics master switch is off. In the assignments section of the options - controls menu I have assigned CTRL + A to the master avionics switch so now when I have this happen to me I simply switch the avionics back on. Clever huh :-)I've also heard from people who save a situation with a Cessna with the avionics switch on and then change to the PMDG plane, or something along those lines, but personally I'm not too sure that this couldn't cause other problems.Leo Bakker
July 24, 200322 yr Hopefully this will be addressed in the patch. Surely the panel could set up things like the default FS avionics switch when it starts up.Lee Hetherington (KBED)
July 24, 200322 yr Hi Leo,Thanks for a good tip, it saves me(us) a lot of time. I just love to start her up manually (sometimes I even "clock" myself" to see how fast I can do it!)And I am glad I did. Climbing up through 15000 feet, I lost both engines, due to the fuel bug or something. Autopilot off, put the plane into a descent, AP on, then fired up the APU and managed to start both engines, loosing only 2000 feet. Switched off the two center tank pumps and used crossfeed for a while...the rest of the flight went well. But I ended up with a very high pulse :)A question: Do I need the APU when loosing an engine airborne, or can I use the air passing through the engine for startup?
July 24, 200322 yr Hi Andrew,According to my manual, which is for the 3/4/5, a windmill start is possible with an indicated airspeed between 260 and 340, up to a pressure altitude of 24000 feet, if N2 is above 15%.In that case you have to set the start switches to FLT, and with the start lever to idle the engine should start.Never tried this in PIC767, but I do know that PS1 models this. Maybe an interesting challenge for PMDG :-)Leo Bakker
July 24, 200322 yr Hi Leo,I didn`t have anything assigned to this switch. Just programmed it in and tested it, working like a charm. But I miss very much an audible click when I use this switch...Thanks for the tips regarding engine start. If I remember right, after firing up the APU, the engines would not start with GND, I had to switch them to FLT for the start. Now, I`m looking forward to try out som high-altitude restarts and see if pure air plus the right speed will work :)
July 24, 200322 yr Beat you to it :-) You can get an engine start, I'm just nor sure if it's modeled entirely correctly. I had shut down engine 2 and closed the engine 2 bleed and the isolation valve. The N2 drops to almost zero, so in that sense according to my manual it couldn't start. Also, if you set the start switch to FLT, the start valve will open. I'm not sure that would happen in real life either. Then, N2 will rise and you can get a start. My hunch is that perhaps they "simulated" a wind mill start by "secretly" using the starter motor?Leo Bakker
July 24, 200322 yr Hehe, you beat me. Just finished my own testflight with the same results. Not much to read out regarding N1, N2, etc, but the engines started nicely without the APU. I even tried to dive down into thicker air, but didn`t see much changes to the readouts. Well, modeling windmill effect is too much work I guess, but as your manual states, it would be nice with a correct N2 readout if the airspeed is right :)
July 24, 200322 yr I think it`s not a bug, this ATC "issue" of mine. Just got confused, I saw several having this problem. What I switch off...has to come back on. I use the default Cessna to make a cold plane, switch off everything. Including Avionics...! The one I have to switch back on when starting the 737 manually.Got Automation Overload :-lol
July 25, 200322 yr Well, if they just leave the annunciator for the "Start valve open" out, you can hardly tell the difference between a real windmill start. As it is, the FLT setting of the start switches, which in real life would do nothing more than power both igniter systems, is obviously also connected to the starter motor.But anyway, after the patch, having two engines flame out should hardly ever occur, right :-)Leo Bakker
July 25, 200322 yr That is true. Leave it out as long as the APU is not fired up, and maybe implement a speed-dependant N2 value. Regarding the fuel problem, I have learnt by now to never let the center tank get empty :)Or maybe PMDG can make us a refuelling probe plus a KC-135 :-hah
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