thanx for your reply randy,check out: http://rfinder.asalink.net/free/just so see what im asking type in kjfk for the dep airpt and klax for the arr. airpt. a flt plan will appear in 1 sec.right under the flt. plan computed with all the waypoints it says this..."Headings are magnetic, distances are in nautical miles." AND RIGHT UNDER THIS SENTENCE IT SHOWS a few waypoints from the flt. plan (IN BOLD) and right next to each of them there are waypoints that appear to be airways (NOT IN BOLD) (i know waypoints are not airways but i dont know what to call them!) ...will i put these in the VIA column on the RTE page (the ones that were not in bold print that i was talking about in the other paragraph)...do you know what these are?THREE GREENS!brandon, your new friend!

Hey,Hopefully this pic should explain all:http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/86518.jpgTake the section "HNK J522 MEMMS". This means that you join the airway (J522) at fix HNK and exit at MEMMS. Hope it helpsDavid

.....where do you get the airways from because the website i use only shows fixes.....check out the site and make a random flt plan and look on the place that i said and tell me if they are airwaysthanks,brandoncheers!

Hey,Very bottom of the page which readsKJFK SID PUT J68 HNK J522 MEMMS J82 JHW J554 GIJ J146 JOT J18 ALBRT J64 PGS STAR KLAXBold are fixes, normal font are airways.Also can be found in the big blurb at the beginning of the page:KJFK (0.0nm) -SID-> PUT (117.7nm) -J68-> SWALO (134.1nm) -J68-> DEKOW (169.5nm) -J68-> PONEE (179.5nm) -J68-> DWITE (260.6nm) -J68-> HNK (277.1nm) -J522-> KODEY (301.7nm) -J522-> MEMMS (328.8nm) -J82-> JHW (455.3nm) -J554-> SURLY (514.1nm) -J554-> COHOW (525.4nm) -J554-> CRL92 (556.9nm) -J554-> CRL15 (633.7nm) -J554-> CRL (648.6nm) -J554-> BENJO (727.5nm) -J554-> GIJ (777.5nm) -J146-> JOT (868.2nm) -J18-> MZV (973.5nm) -J18-> ALBRT (1051.0nm) -J64-> JAVAS (1076.9nm) -J64-> LMN (1131.5nm) -J64-> PWE (1236.6nm) -J64-> HLC (1430.6nm) -J64-> PUB (1635.7nm) -J64-> RSK (1833.6nm) -J64-> COCAN (1945.4nm) -J64-> TBC (1991.3nm) -J64-> PGS (2105.9nm) -STAR-> KLAX (2366.1nm) This is an expanded version of the first quoted line in this reply.PUT J68 HNKcan also be written asPUT -J68-> SWALO -J68-> DEKOW -J68-> PONEE -J68-> DWITE -J68-> HNKThe second version simply shows all the fixes on Jet68 between PUT and HNKDoes that help any more? Any other questions just ask :)Cheers,David

David your a good sport thank you for all of your help-Brandon Glass...Whishing you THREE GREENS on your future flights

No problem mate, glad I could help!CheersDavid

thanks everybody.rgds,Brandon