So is it offical now that there is no way the 747 will be released before the end of 2004? Could this mean we may see the MD-11 out before the 747, because I believe the Bill Grabowski's panel has been in development for 2 years already.Cheers ;-)Denis AllenP.S. Sorry if I am being a pain.

Denis,Its pretty safe to assume that we wont see the 744 till the new year. The product is still mid alpha meaning it's NOT complete yet. After that there'll extensive beta testing which,in the past, has taken upto 2 months.As for the MD11, I couldnt say. But you should remember that Bill only joined the PMDG team recently meaning that he has only been able to avail of PMDG's resources over the last few weeks. In other words-I have no Idea :)John http://homepage.eircom.net/~eamonnmca/images/logo_ba.JPGwww.bavirtual.co.uk Senior Captain Simflight.com Staff Reviewer