If this question has been posted previously I apologize. I am trying to make Mike's 757 compatible with the PIC panel. Does anyone know where in the .cfg file I can fix the oil pressure problem. The panel shows low oil pressure continuously.Joe "High Pockets""Helicopters can't fly. They're just so ugly, the earth repels them"

Bump. Come on guys. I know one of you has the answer to this question.":-grnmd Joe "High Pockets""Helicopters can't fly. They're just so ugly, the earth repels them

Come on guys. I'm still waiting patiently for an answer to my question above.. Please!!!!Joe "High Pockets""Helicopters can't fly. They're just so ugly, the earth repels them"

This question has been asked and answered at least 14 times on this forum, this is why no one is replying to you.Do a search on this forum using the SEARCH function and you will find the answers....in sum, the 767 panel only works 100% with a 767 using the Wilco AIR and CFG files. The gauges will be misleading (temp/oil, etc), FMC will give bad numbers (it is designed for a 767), it just ain't worth it unless you never use VNAV/LNAV...and if that is the case, then you may as well not use the FMC at all. This is also the 767 forum, not the 757-767 merge forum.Save yourself the hassle, merge a POSKY 767 with Lee Heatherington's merge utility and be a happy PIC767 pilot until a 757 panel comes along.Rob.

Well... I've been using the PIC767 panel with FFG, Mike Stone, and IFDG 757s for a while. The problem with the oil pressure guages is easlily fixed in the .air file. All the guages read correctly for me and the FMC works fine as well.The only problem I have that I can't seem to fix wether it's Wilco's FDE files or my own is the fluttering of the ailerons which, of course, cause very subtle wobbleing around the roll axis. The same FDE files with other panels do not exhibit this problem.

The only problem you had was fluttering ailerons?? The FMC works fine?? How exactly were you able to produce meaningful performance numbers from an FMC that was programmed for a 767? I am talking about flap/reference speeds, ZFW, fuel burn, climb/des calcs, etc, etc,, all of which are designed for a 767, not a 757. The most you can possibly get out of the FMC with the 757 is lateral navigation and little else.I don't mean to sound cynical, but the 767 panel is for use with a 767, and making a post claiming everything works "fine" with a 757 is simply not correct and will spur more posts from people who notice that everything is not fine...which we have seen on this forum 14 times...hence my original reply noting that this is the 767 forum and the PIC panel is designed solely for a 767.Anywho, to each their own, and whatever makes you happy.Rob.

Geez Rob, don't have a cow. I have tremendous fun flying a range of 757's combined with the 767PIC panel. Just enter a weight into the box that will get you the same performance figures (except fuel flow). It's all relative, if you're light in the 757, just enter the weight for a light 767 etc.It really doesn't bother me one bit since LNAV is really what you need. All VNAV autopilot functions work properly. So what if you can't exactly take minimum required block fuel and see if you'll make it based on FMC calculations, that's the only thing. Virtual fuel costs nothing. Gas 'er up!Iz(757 driver day job)

I am not too certain I want to get into this debate but I am curious about something. And Iz, this is not really directed just to you but to all those flying 757s merges with the 767PIC. Are you folks making somekind of valid adjustments to thrust, lift, and drag? Or, are you really just flying a light 767 with possibly some adjusted contact and view points? If you never go to spot or tower view, would you really "just be flying a relitively empty 767"? I ask these questions not with toung-in-cheek but because I really don't know because I have never kept up with the 757 posts.

Hi IZ,Not really having a cow, more like birthing a small piglet ;-) ...I admit I am a little fanatical about the PIC767 panel and its' proper useage (sp?). Using a 757 with the PIC767 FMC, the performance figures will be off: T/C and T/D come to mind as the 757 performance can be very different from a 767 as you know. VNAV climb, cruise, and descent speeds...as well as time estimates will be off, Cost Indexing will be inaccurate....I am sure there is more...that's all I was getting at.You are a 757 driver, so obviously you know far more than I, but I have to protest when the 757 is used with a PIC767 panel...it is not 100%...but as I said, to each their own.Bye for now,Rob.

A small piglet eh? :)First off, people can do anything they wish in FS2002. I use the PSS 777 panel for my 737NG's. Yeah so they're way too advanced for the 737NG's, but they're the only one with a properly operating EFIS and autopilot. Well at least, as close as properly..The 767PIC panel is still way above the PSS products, the problem I have with the PSS panels is that they go 90% of the way. They make it really realistic but stop before they reach the finish line. Which doesn't make much sense because it's already too difficult for a non-serious flight simmer, but for the really serious folks, it's not accurate enough.Anyway, so what alternative is there to using the 767PIC panel on a 757? The overhead panel contains panels that are only found on the 757, not on the 767. The autopilot doesn't care if you're a 757 or a 767. You can fly the plane without touching the FMC at all, just like in real life. Just without using LNAV/VNAV.Top of climb, top of descent don't exactly work out correctly but then again the top of descent doesn't work out exactly when using a 767 either, did you know that? VNAV top of descent is always your IDLE DESCENT point. Because for some reason, I haven't seen a plane in Flight Sim that will perform an accurate idle descent, the a/p uses thrust in the descent to keep the descent path "realistic". In just about any FS2002 plane, idle the thrust and the plane will come screaming down at 8000 fpm.So I don't mind the TOC, TOD and fuel figures. TOC is totally just nice to know most of the time and TOD doesn't give an idle descent anyway. During a real flight, as a pilot, you're constantly doing the math in your head. I know that all these beautiful computerized systems make things really easy and you don't have to think about things anymore. The FMC is like any computer: GIGO (garbage in, garbage out). So the TOD is calculated roughly by taking the altitude you have to lose in thousands of feet, times three + 10 and you have the miles it takes to make a standard descent. In the 757, if you have an hour to fly before landing and you have 6.5 tonnes (metric) of fuel, you're right on schedule for minimum reserves landing. These mental calculations go on inside your head all the time, so you don't have to rely on the FMC 100%.

For sure it's easy to get lazy with the FMC doing the math for me...I do enjoy flying the new 727 panel that's out just so I can remember how to do it "old school" style....it certainly keeps ya busy on the short hops ;-)Your comments r.e. PSS are right on. If you want to try something really scary (being Halloween and all), have a play on the Scarebus..eeeek! Dancing magenta donuts, managed modes, and alpha floors...all I can say is "doh". Boeing is better, the Airbus philosophy bothers me....was that snobbish?True, there is no real alternative if you want to fly a 757, may as well use the PIC767 panel and do a little math as you say...I find this exceedingly difficult after a few brews on the late night flights...this is where my realism levels tend to fall apart...bottle and throttle don't mix ;-)The VNAV descent is a little harsh at times on the PIC767, although better than others. I find selecting a V/Speed when nearing T/D point for a smooth transition to the descent profile, then re-select VNAV when back on the path...keeps the Gin and Tonic's from hitting the roof.Happy Landings.Rob.

Geez. Looks like I opened a can of worms here. Oh well. Dave. Can you please tell me where in the .air file to make the mod and what that mod is?ThanksJoe "High Pockets""Helicopters can't fly. They're just so ugly, the earth repels them"