Can anyone explain the routing on this flight today...the weather dos not seem so significant that it should re-route so far north on an eastbound flight...maybe an ETOPS / MEL limitation?Just curious.Rob.http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/75965.jpg

My guessBest winds route:See below:NOTAM___________CZQX040049 CZQX GANDER FIR CZQX MIL ACTIVITY AREA BOUNDED BY 5100N 7047W 5120N 7008W5120N 6809W 5000N 6809W 4940N 6819W 4930N 6840W 5100N 6840WTO POINT OF ORIGIN. 17000 FT MSL TO FL600.1200/2300 DAILY 0405171200/0405202300 AND0405211200 TIL 0405212000040014 CZQX GANDER FIR CZQX PHASE 3 CONTROLLER PILOT DATA LINK COMMUNICATION TRIALS IN THE NAT REGION, AS NOTIFIED BY AIC 7/03 HAS BEGUN. CZQX AND EGGX EXPANDED CPDLC SERVICES TO PHASE 3 CONCURRENTLY.040037 CZQX GANDER FIR CZQX DESIGNATED AIRSPACE HANDBOOK IS AMENDED AS FOLLOWS: CYA731(M) GOOSE BAY, NL. THE FIRST EXCLUSION NOTE TO READ AS FOLLOWS: EXCLUDING: 1) THE AIRSPACE WITHIN THE AREA BOUNDED BY A CIRCLE OF 16 MILES RADIUS CENTRED ON 533343N 0640623W (CHURCHILL FALLS AIRPORT).040038 CZQX GANDER FIR CZQX WEF:0404150901 ACFT FLT PLANNING THROUGH THE GANDER DOMESTIC FIR VIA 53N050W TO 45N050W INCLUSIVE, ARE REQUIRED TO FLT PLAN IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PUB NAT TRACKS OR THE FOLLOWING ROUTE PAIRS: 53N050W-HECKK 48N050W-NOVEP 52N050W-CRONO 47N050W-RONPO 51N050W- DENDU 46N050W-URTAK 50N050W-KOBEV 45N050W-VODOR 49N050W-LOGSU THE OCEANIC BOUNDARY FIXES FROM HECKK TO VODOR INCLUSIVE ARE COMPULSORY FOR FLIGHT PLANNING PURPOSES. EASTBOUND POSITION REPORTS OVER THESE FIXES ARE NOT REQUIRED UNLESS REQUESTED BY ATC.040043 CZQX GANDER FIR CZQX MIL ACTIVITY AREA BOUNDED BY 5100N 7047W 5120N 7008W 5120N 6809W 5000N 6809W 4940N 6819W 4930N 6840W 5100N 6840W TO POINT OF ORIGIN. 17000 FT MSL TO FL600 0405101200/0405110500, 0405111200/0405120500, 0405121200/0405130500, 0405131200/0405140500, AND 0405141200 TIL 0405142000040046 CZQX GANDER FIR CZQX FIRING PYROTECHNICS WITHIN 5 NM RADIUS 512731N 565214W (APRX 12 NM ESE LOURDES-DE-BLANC-SABLON AIRPORT) MAX ALT 1500 FT AGL 0405101200 TIL 0406022000PIREP _______________________ FIR_GANDER DOMESTIC (QX)UACN10 CYWK 141426 QX UA /OV YWK 090074 /TM 1420 /FL190 /TP UNK /TA -15 /WV 308062 UACN10 CYHZ 141425 QX UA /OV YWK 090074 /TM 1420 /FL190 /TP UNK /TA -15 /WV 308062 Charts__________________________http://www.flightplanning.navcanada.ca/Lat...FD_FL340-e.htmlhttp://www.flightplanning.navcanada.ca/Lat...st00-est-e.htmlhttp://www.flightplanning.navcanada.ca/Lat...50-fl630-e.html

60 Mins ETOPS Limitation.Need to fly within 60 mins flying time of enroute ETOPS alternates.In this case looks like it would be Frobay or Goose, Stromfjord - Greenland, Rekjavik, Glasgow or Prestwick. The 60 mins ETOPS limitation is usually applied when the APU is INOP.

I am betting you are right...BAW flights are flying the 'regular' / crowe routes.Rob.

Rob,I see this quite regular going the other way with the heaps that are the 762's that ACA use across the pond. When ever the APU is INOP they fly that Northerly Route.

They obviously use FSNAV to create their flightplans!!! :-lol

There is no 'e' on the end of 'crow'.Self correction.I just heard back from my buddy at ACA Flt Ops/Mission Mgmt...sure enough, APU out, ETOPS limit reduced...aparently this is common problem...score 1 for Mr. McGrath.Go Flames.

>They obviously use FSNAV to create their flightplans!!!>:-xxrotflmao And a nice answer Mark, I've learned something new about ETOPS!Ilan

This is how the pond hops normally look eastbound before the daily NAT is valid...(Dayliner service)http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/76424.txt