December 16, 200421 yr Ok, Thought I would work on a system to get the PM FD to work using ccc (read all my switch positions are full and don't have another board made yet.)I've set up the following, with a toggle but it doesn't work - it keeps turning off, regardless, and sometimes it goes up but not sure why it's not working.http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/100663.jpg
December 16, 200421 yr Are those an AND and a NAND port ?How can you expect a 1 at the end of an AND port if you give only 1 signal to it ?You need some kind of flipflop for a push button to toggle something as far as I know.
December 16, 200421 yr I just found that if I entered the one - it seemed to come up with the 1's at the correct time, and the 0's when the switch was inverted.I'm beginning to think I might just use dummy switches instead of trying to work out the logic.If I can't work out the simple logic - there is no way in hell I'll work out a full system :(
December 16, 200421 yr Your CCC shema is really strange and I don't understand really want you wanna do ?For ex. the AND operator with only one input is no useto wire directly the FD ---- Fd On would make the same ...Tell us more exactly want you really wanna do...If FD is the Flight Director and you've attach a toggle switch to set it on/off you don't need to use the CCC ... simply set toggle in the switch parameterAnother question why do you have both Fd off and fd on output ?that mean there're not encoded in the same offset ?GreetingsBOB
December 16, 200421 yr For some weird reason pm has two flags for the Fd fdon and fdff.On the back is 3 pins - 1 2 3 (just to make it easier to understand)I've got 1 and 2 going to the key board of fsbus which I can't then connect to fdon and fdff.Now if I had another switch spot free - which I don't I could set up another switch wired from 2 & 3 which then I could set up this example1 & 2 - FDOn2 & 3 - FdOffSimply turning FDOn to 0 doesn't toggle it back.
December 16, 200421 yr Hi Still cant see your prob--just use 3 legs switch --in up position 1 and 2 closed and assighnet for fdon --down position 2and 3 closed and assighnet for fdoffJust use the same fskey bus and attach the middle leg of switch 2 to common terminalThen assighn led for fdon and u doneWorks simple as that
December 16, 200421 yr In complement you define 2 switch in FSBUSone is 1-2 link to FDon the second is 2-3 link to FDoff with inverted flagYou wire the pole 2 as GND (common) and the 1 and 3 to a Key channel of the interfaceThat's it no need of CCCWhen the switch is on 1-2 position FSon is 1 and FSoff is 0when the switch move to 2-3 Fson goes 0 and FSoff goes 1BOB
December 16, 200421 yr Problem is - I have no space left on the key board - I can't wire the 3rd pin on - as there is no where for it to go!
December 16, 200421 yr Tnen have to build additional fskey module or just free some fskey input in a favor to fdBy the way same approach is for PM Ap and Dissengage--needs two inputsOne fskey module for shure is not enoght for handling all functions --i have 3 and thats still about marginal
December 17, 200421 yr Yeah, I know I need to make more, but at this stage I don't have the funds, to build another, but before I build another I want to make the fscom again. Although it's working fine - it's the weakest link that I've got (hey it was the first board i ever built).I don't have any problems with the ap, I have one press button for the AP! offset under FCU Buttons B32-63.I've double assigned the switch, and as an inverse, but have yet to try it on the hardware - worked in the button clicks.My biggest concern - is the lack of CCC tutorials around - all the ones on the forum have exipred images, and the only other I can see is the one at mikkila.wabbits.org/fsbus/doc/CCC-TutorialI'm terrible at logic at the best of times, but if I've got nothing to look at - well I'm even worse.I realise Dirk is busy, but with 8 months of CCC being around I'm surprised we don't have more actual examples - I'm willing to host them if anyone has them - same with a complete fsif.ini just to try and a) improve my sim, and others who are new :)I'll post if the example of double assigning the switch worked.
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