Hi everyone,I'm still chasing info on building a Concorde Sim.I have found a really detailed model at www.sstsim.com It's called the Altitude Concorde.The model mostly uses custom variables for the AFCS and many of the other systems.Is there any way that this model can be used with FSBus for a home cockpit?Thanks again everyoneDavid

Just do your homework: launch fs with the sst, open fsinterrogate and look.

Hi Claudio,Thanks for your response as usual.The Altitude Concorde is an expensive piece of software for a plane so I wanted to find out if it us usable before I purchase it.The designer tells me that it uses FSUIPC so does this mean if it uses FSUIPC and FSBus exchanges data with FSUIPC and all available offsets then this would work?By the way, how is your cnc going, I gave mine it's first test run the other day and apart from a little tweaking, it see to be all ok.RegardsDavid

Does anyone know if the "Altitude Concorde" at www.sstsim.com is compatable with FSBus and FSUIPC.This is a hard one to find answers to.David

One further question....Can FSBus be used for any offset that is run through FSUIPC.In simple terms, If this software uses FSUIPC to interface to MSFS, than surely FSBUS can be used to alter these offsets through FSUIPC. Hope this question makes sense.David

Only people haveing the software can answer your question.I can tell you about the 737 PMDG: it uses fsuipc for certain things so that expansive pieces of hardware can use it (like don'trimemberthename hardware consoles...).But not for everything.You can get access to all the MCP for example, but if you use FSBUS to alter the values, you won't see anything changeing on the mcp itself.It lacks (or better: i haven't found) any "refresh" command to make the MCP go look to the new values.The background software (the one driving the plane) actually responds to the new data it receives, it's just the displays that don't update.So if you would like to still use the software panel, in this case it would do nothing to use fsbus, as the software panel is not updated.If you would use a hardware panel, then it would be a feasible solution.So it depends on many variables, and a general answer is not possibile in this case.Anyway if you happen to find the "refresh" offset for the pmdg i'd be more then happy to know: one must exist as the driver of those consoles i don't remember the name, is able to update the displays accordingly.

The main problem with the PMDG is that not even the FMA is updated with the changes.If at least the FMA was updated, there would be no need to update the panel MCP since you would have the feedback you need as to what command was accepted and executed.That's the purpose after all, isn't it? To get rid of the panel and use the hardware with just the instruments ?George Dorkofikis

>The main problem with the PMDG is that not even the FMA is>updated with the changes.>If at least the FMA was updated, there would be no need to>update the panel MCP since you would have the feedback you>need as to what command was accepted and executed.>That's the purpose after all, isn't it? To get rid of the>panel and use the hardware with just the instruments ?>>George DorkofikisI'm starting to feel more and more that if I was to build a jet cockpit, I'd use Project Magenta - it works and it's built to be used with FSUIPC - or I'd check out the 737 stuff the opencockpit guys are working on.The thing is, it also makes sense speed-wise: instead of one monster PC running everything you can have the fast one do the visual system and have old crappy ones do the gauges - and an older PC runs Magenta just fine if you have at least some 3D card for it. Doesnt need to be the latest really.I guess it depends on where you look regarding prices: PC hardware or software?//Tuomas

"I'm starting to feel more and more that if I was to build a jet cockpit, I'd use Project Magenta - it works and it's built to be used with FSUIPC"But not with hardware panels... getting data out of PM to show on a hardware panel is problematic."an older PC runs Magenta just fine if you have at least some 3D card for it. Doesnt need to be the latest really."Has to be pretty recent... PM uses OpenGL. That's why I wrote my own GA instrument panel so that I could run it on an older computer that doesn't support OpenGL.Richard

>"I'm starting to feel more and more that if I was to build a>jet cockpit, I'd use Project Magenta - it works and it's built>to be used with FSUIPC">>But not with hardware panels... getting data out of PM to show>on a hardware panel is problematic.Uh, how does everyone do it then? Or do you mean for those ready-made MCPs by Aerosoft etc? Magenta has their own offsets for things, but those are published in the FSUIPC sdk.>"an older PC runs Magenta just fine if you have at least some>3D card for it. Doesnt need to be the latest really.">>Has to be pretty recent... PM uses OpenGL. That's why I wrote>my own GA instrument panel so that I could run it on an older>computer that doesn't support OpenGL.Yeah, but it does not need to be the latest screaming PC, something older will work. Well, try the demos.//Tuomas