is quite easy using the NATs for traffic between North America and Europe. But what about flights to and from Europe to South America (SBGL i.e.) or between Sydney - Los Angeles, India-South Africa.... ? Are there similar routes established for all the oceans or is this more or less uncontrolled "terrain" and everybody is flying direct routes relying only on TCAS ? And if these tracks exist, wher ecan I find them ?Thanks,J

Hi Jorg !There are four static routes between Europe and South America.UN741 SNT - FLZ (Porto Santo - Fortaleza)UN866 KONBA - MSS (Konba - Mossoro)UN873 GDV - NTL (Gran Canaria - Natal)UN857 LZR - NOR (Lanzarote - Noronha)These routes are mainly used for flights between Europe and Brazil/Argentina/ChileI don't know much about the routes above the Pacific ocean, maybe you can check VATSIM.Jasper :-wavenew system specs:P4 2.4768MB RAMGeForce 4 Ti440080 GB HarddiskDVD-BurnerWin XP home edition11189 3dMark 2001 benchmarkshttp://ftp.avsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3da3e03f7b43a9e8.jpg

You can find Pacific equivalent NAT tracks here....https://www.notams.jcs.mil/