It's probably not significant to the majority of the flight sim community, but these computers are astonishing!Macbook Pro -1.67 Intel Core Duo - $199915.4-inch TFT display with 1440x900 resolution1.67GHz Intel Core Duo processor with 2MB shared L2 Cache667MHz frontside bus512MB (single SO-DIMM) 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (PC2-5300)80GB 5400rpm Serial ATA hard driveSlot-load SuperDrive (DVD

I can't wait!!! I'm almost certain I'll be buying a MacBook Pro. I was briefly considering purchasing a PowerBook anyway and I'm glad I didn't. I'll be flying to LA at the end of the month for 10 days and had planned to visit the Apple Store there. If I'm lucky, I might pick it up there! ;)Edwin

They're on the expensive side but it's great that Apple are now going to start churning out more competitive products at more competitive prices (hopefully). The complete product line will be fully transitioned before 2006 is out.To be honest, if I were you I'd wait because it's likely that these machines will come down in price and the processors will get speed boosts in a few months. A 2.0Ghz Intel duo chip already exists. When that's in one of the portable Macs, I'm buying.I love the idea of being able to boot either XP or OS X. XP is great for games and OS X is for everything else. When Intel are in the desktop line, I'm going to setup a system with 2 hard drives, one for OS X, one for XP. Computer heaven!!Pyjamas

http://www.betanews.com/article/XP_Wont_Ru...iMac/1137003330Greg

Yes, I just read about this a few minutes ago. I've read it might not be possible directly so maybe there is still chance of a work around.If not, ahh well. I'll still be buying once the portables hit 2.0GHz + :DPyjamas

Greg already beat me to posting about the dual-boot problem. Yes, ideally, that would be fantastic but for now, it seems unlikely. I'm sure with time, someone will figure out a way around the problem. It's one of the reasons I'm holding off on buying an iMac. I'm going to wait for the Intel Power Macs to come out first and see whether the dual-boot possibility exists before I decide whether to get a Power Mac or an iMac.But for notebook, I'm pretty sure the MacBook Pro will serve my needs. A 166MHz bump is unlikely to make significant differences in speed anyway. The Lenovo Thinkpad T60 also seems very attractive (I've been a big fan of the Thinkpads for a long time). I'm slightly concerned about the size of the MacBook Pro given the 15" widescreen, and I have more confidence in IBM when it comes to battery life. But I just can't resist Apple's design and I do think Mac OS X is better for everything besides gaming (although IMHO, the advantage over Windows XP is smaller than what most Mac-lovers claim). Besides, new machines are always around the corner so I never believe in "waiting for something better" - just take the plunge when you feel is right and don't look back. :)Edwin

With the introduction of "Boot Camp", Apple are paving the way of dual bootable computers. It's still in public beta but it'll be standard feature of the next generation OS, 10.5 "Leopard" which is due for a late '06/early '07 release.Not bad for only a few months. So Intel Macs can run XP, Linux and even MS-DOS (with other 3rd party software)Info: http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/Pics: http://web.mac.com/andrewnesbitt/iWeb/SiteNo pics running FS (yet), but here is a 2.0GHz Macbook Pro running CS: Source.http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/146657.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/146658.jpgFantastic :-) :D

What are you getting for FPS?

On a 2.0ghz dual core with 2gb of DDR2 and a X1600 256mb gfx card - Stress test ran with no problems with a result of 83fps which is more than playable. Able to run cs:s at the default res of the display 1440x900.3Dmark 06 ran at the default res of 1280x768 (no pro version) and the Macbook Pro scored 1535 3d marks, the cpu score was 1658.There are minor bugs to be ironed out but apart from that it's working amazingly well. After you boot of the XP disc, it's just like installing XP on any other system.From Engadget; "According to Mossberg, after installing Boot Camp and Windows on an Intel iMac, Windows ran "blazingly fast," and all of the apps he tested ran "flawlessly." Mossberg put the install time -- including both installing Boot Camp itself and running the usual Windows installer -- at 57 minutes, 40 of which were claimed by the Windows setup program. Despite being generally pleased, Mossberg did find a few glitches, including having to reset the clock every time Windows is booted (apparently the system clock used by the iMac isn't recognized by Windows) and not being able to use Apple's iSight camera. All in all, however, Mossberg summed things up with what may soon become Apple's new tagline: "Whether you want to run Mac or Windows programs, an Apple computer may be the only computer you'll need."So there you have it, the only computers that can run Mac OS X, Windows XP, Linux and Unix natively. (DOS if you really want to :( )3Dmarkhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/146681.jpgBoot selectionhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/146682.jpgInstalling XPhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/146683.jpg

>No pics running FS (yet)Here :http://msmvps.com/blogs/thenakedmvp/archiv...4/05/89438.aspx

Those are very good FPS results with CSS and good 3DMark 06 score as well, mine was 1200 with a 6600GT but now with a 7800GS it is 2900.

>>No pics running FS (yet)>>Here :>>http://msmvps.com/blogs/thenakedmvp/archiv...4/05/89438.aspx>>Yeah :) It works pretty well, but wont be replacing my main PC :)Thanks for posting the link!Nick