With Echoplate shutting down next year, I'm looking for options to have a relatively complete set of SIDs and STARs on my system. I know Jep has the SimCharts product, but it's a little pricey (about $65 for the U.S. and $30 extra for Europe, $30 for Canada). I realize this is cheap vs. real updated charts, but for simming it seems like it might be a bit overkill. Does anybody know any other options that are less expensive but feature most SIDs and STARs for the U.S and Europe?Thanks for any help you can offer,Philip.

Call a local 135 operator and see what they do with their outdated charts. Most of them just throw them away. I got the whole US covered thanks to Robert Yates Racing Team.

I was just wrestling with the same issue. Isn't there another vendor that produces charts for sim aviation?Boyd BarkerSenior Command CaptainBOS Hub ManagerWestWind AirlinesMy Guide to the Ultimate Dreamfleet 737 Experience: http://home.houston.rr.com/checklist/checklist.htmlMy DF737 Around the World Adventure: http://home.houston.rr.com/checklist/aroundtheworld.html