Computer specs:ASUS P4P800 BIOS 10152.4 GHZ Pentium 4 with Hyperthreading enabled512 MB PC3200 DDR RAM (1 stick)22.3 GB free on 27.9 GB C: partition - rest is D: on a nominally 40 GB Western Digital ATA driveLG CD-R and DVD-ROM drives, Panasonic floppyHIS Excalibur (ATI) Radeon 9600SE AGP video with 128 MB DDR RAM and latest driver supporting some version of Open GL - the version number is a question mark on the HIS page and ATI doesn't tell eitherMicrosoft Sidewinder Force Feedback Pro gameport joystick using the Windows built in driverWindows XP Pro SP2 with all updates and driversAntivirus, antispyware, software and hardware firewallMotherboard, RAM, and processor are 1.25 years old, all else is brand new - including the XP installationWhen I start the game at Meadowlark field on runway 07x, Cessna 172 with full screen, high-res panel, the aircraft spins in place on the ground - no engine noise. Eventually the horizon starts to tilt.With a 172P with 2D panel, I get the same with the addition of engine noise and a night setting although the starting time is supposed to be noon.Suggestions?Thanks,Marc

[spechs]>When I start the game at Meadowlark field on runway 07x,>Cessna 172 with full screen, high-res panel, the aircraft>spins in place on the ground - no engine noise. Eventually>the horizon starts to tilt.>>With a 172P with 2D panel, I get the same with the addition of>engine noise and a night setting although the starting time is>supposed to be noon.>>Suggestions?It's hard to actually determine the cause without sitting in front of the machine, however:Try to reduce the problem to a couple of potential sources:- is the Joystick properly configured/calibrated ?- does the problem also occur when you have disconnected the joystick ?- does the problem also occur at other airports ?- does the problem also occur using different aircraft ?- have you tried using a different joystick ?- do you have sound enabled (i.e. might the engine be running anyway ?)Depending on your findings, you might find it somewhat more enlightening to start FlightGear with its integrated telnet interface to the property tree being enabled, that way you'll be able to interactively start debug sessions using a telnet client.So, you could for example connect to the FlightGear session and check the state of all relevant variables at runtime.

If I run FG with --model-hz=11, plane spins similar as you have described. I have reported this at flightgear.org

>If I run FG with --model-hz=11, plane spins similar as you>have described. >>I have reported this at flightgear.orgWell, you'll probably want to run FlightGear with not much less than ~80 hz for most cases.

- is the Joystick properly configured/calibrated ?Yes.- does the problem also occur when you have disconnected the joystick ?It starts out spinning, but does respond to arrow keyboard inputs - I don't know the keyboard commands for throttle and help isn't retrieving anything.- does the problem also occur at other airports ?Yes.- does the problem also occur using different aircraft ?Yes, with the only one tried - Beech 99.- have you tried using a different joystick ?No - don't have one and am unwilling to buy one strictly for troubleshooting - this system is a Father's Day gift for Dad and I really can't spend much more money on it.- do you have sound enabled (i.e. might the engine be running anyway ?)Sound is working today.- Depending on your findings, you might find it somewhat more enlightening to start FlightGear with its integrated telnet interface to the property tree being enabled, that way you'll be able to interactively start debug sessions using a telnet client.I have no idea how to do this.The only response from the joystick is moving the throttle wheel on the Beech 99 increases or decreases engine noise.