Hoping someone will have the magic clue I have missed.I have set up a new system, suse 10.1 on a p4 3.4g., PCI-E 256meg nivida graphics. fgfs runs quite fine. although some issues to compile that I did not have with suse9.At the moment working under KDE but later probably fvwm.I have 2 3 axis joystics, identical, (cheap), both are recognised as js0 and 1 respectivly and function normally in JS demo. Both return the same id of "USB Game Device".The second device is just for some extra switches.The fgjs config program works and creates 2 suitable config files to all of the desired inputs. (js0.xml and js1.xml) I copy these across, to the Input/joysticks dir. The system finds the file /Input/joysticks/Default/joystick.xmlI can edit this file to match my hardware and see the results as expected. If I plug in the second stick, both operate the same funtions side by side.From reading the faqs, man pagees, searching forums ect, I expect I just need to add these two files from fgjs, pathed accordingly, with respect to the /data/Joysticks.xml file, into this file and Flight gear should load them.I expected they were listed as elements after js-named. But what goes in "Namespace URI", "Prefix", and "local Name"? (these names might be KDE xml edit specific). I have been using the kde xml editor with out sucess. Normally the file gets fouled up after a few tries and simgear shows an error message on startup of fgfs.Aside from when I cause that error, there are no other errors reported by fgfs.Obviously i am putting the wrong thing in the wrong place.When up, fgfs shows only /js in the files/browse internal properties/input/joystick menu.So the question is what should the /Data/Joysticks.xml file look like to get the system to load js0.xml and js1.xml from the Input/Joysticks/ directory. The help note in the file seems self explanatory, but still no sucess.Or am I trying to do the wrong thing here and is the a different way it can be done.regards Harry

problem solved..edit by hand the old fashioned way.

Your post helped me get my joystick going 30 mins after I installed Flightgear. Thanks