October 23, 201015 yr Morning to everyone,I have been dipping into this site over the past 15 months or so, during the course of my planning and initial build of a Fokker 100 cockpit. Very useful it has been too, with so many practical tips. A large thankyou! My F100 is based aroung the Digital Aviation F100 and I have run into a bit of a problem which I had not foreseen. Therefore I was wondering if members could point me in the right diection to free the log jam?It is regarding the read-outs for the physical 7 segment displays for the autopilot. The DA product does not use the standard FSUIPC offsets for such as V/S, Heading Select etc. and the list of custom offsets is not currently in the public domain. (I am trying to contact the developers but so far unsatisfactorily.) FSInvestigate or the logging facility in FSUIPC does not seem to be giving me what I'm after, or in any case anything I can understand! I believe that certain companies (PMDG I think?) have been reluctant to publish their offset lists for copyright reasons and I have reason to believe that there may be a similar issue with the DA Fokker, as the base software is being used for an unspecified professional application. Naturally, without the ability to read/write to the autopilot displays (and in the future other bits of the sim) the project will be seriously compromised. My questions therefore:1/. Is it a correct assumption to assume that these complicated, modern add-ons do use their own custom offsets?2/. If yes, do you know of any other ideas for accessing them?3/. What interface would you suggest to physically connect and assign the 7 segment displays to the sim?4/. If I am unable to discover the offsets addresses, are there any other ideas for completing the functionality of my autopilot? For example, I've considered using a hybrid between the DA autopilot for push buttons and knobs (no problems assigning all this...) and the FS standard autopilot for changing V/S, Altitude etc. where I can simply assign read/writes to the known FSUIPC addresses. Naturally enough the DA soft disables the MS autopilot (or over-rides it) so I can't see a way to integrate the two. Another idea was mini LCD screens behind the cut outs for the 7 segments with un-docked parts of the DA autopilot gauge. That should work but the LCDs would need to be super-mini!! I hope you understand the nature of the problem, following my inevitably rather long-winded description! I shall be faced with a similar problem if I ever get to other bits of the sim like read-outs for the IRS etc. Annoyingly, other bits of this product do use the standard FSUIPC offsets. Therefore any ideas gratefully considered. I would imagine that this is not an un-common problem for sim builders? (Now I see why I should have built a 737 and just bought an MCP ready done!!)Regards,Andy WILBY(EGMH ATC)
October 23, 201015 yr I have the same problem Andy with the DF727. If custom offsets are used for functions particular to the 727, Dreamfleet and Paul Golding aren't saying what they are. I guess they think I'll try to decompile the model. I've been told that they don't know what the offsets are that I"m needing. Whomever 'they' is. And I don't know the first thing about decompiling a computer program.Within FSUIPC there is a mouse capture function that can be used to program commands that do not respond to anything on the drop-down list or for an offset that is unknown. Once those functions are programmed, you need not ever open the panel again as you would if you were using the much older Key2Mouse utility.The real problem concerns indicator outputs as you have no active way to test for these and identify them as offsets for required/desired indicator functions that are particular to your aircraft. Indicators such as systems information and status may be impossible to find or use within your flight model with no way to identify the offsets. Indicators such as marker beacons, landing gear, etc, that are common to all aircraft may be usable just by hooking up the output card and and selecting the correct function within the card's software or FSUIPC.I can't imagine a developer not knowing the offsets for the functions of their model, nor can I understand the paranoia of these developers when it concerns the ligitimate use of information for building a full size flight simulator for personal use. The offsets are useless to a desktop user and I really don't know how that information could be exploited for financial gain. All we want to know is the code for turning on the damn lights.
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