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P-47 Thunderbolt

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Downloaded p47M_910.zip on this site two days ago. FANTASTIC AIRPLANE.(27 Mb) I have Dial Up: 2 Hours..twenty minutes. Well worth it. This plane is a Pilots Airplane. 2800 HP Two Row Radial. The sounds are REAL. If you can't "Hand Fly"... forget it. SPOFF

I'm addicted to this airplane. I have almost 4 hours flight time now. I'm not sure what makes me want to keep flying it. Maybe the SOUND! ..and the power. I'm a sucker for sound. The exhaust stacks show flames of different color and intensity according to the throttle setting and mixture. I do have a problem with the brakes..it's a Tail Dragger: and like a few other powerfull Round Engine Tail Draggers I have, is very "Sensitive" using "Differential" brakes. Practice will get around this, but it would be nice if the brakes were a little more "Benign". SPOFF

try the more correct Wings of Power P-47 and you'll find that the brakes on the freeware one are too benign ;)

>I do have a problem with the brakes..it's a Tail Dragger: and>like a few other powerfull Round Engine Tail Draggers I have,>is very "Sensitive" using "Differential" brakes. Practice>will get around this, but it would be nice if the brakes were>a little more "Benign". SPOFFglad you like 'her' SPOFF :)try this - brakes are easily adjustable ... could also be done in 'the field'!Edit your aircraft.cfg in something like notepad, locate the {brakes} section (use square brackets instead of course - dang forum limit in here){brakes}// toe_brakes_scale = 0.50 // 50 % scaled downtoe_brakes_scale = 0.425 // 42.5 % scaled down// toe_brakes_scale = 0.40 // 40 % scaled downparking_brake = 1differential_braking_scale = 1Scaled down to 42.5%, it's still possible to nose the Jug! Scaled down to 40%, it's almost impossible to nose over!Of course if you'd like to have a more challenging setup, you can scale up - do this on your own 'peril' :DHmmm .... I really doubt, that the superb Wings Of Power P-47 has more comments in it's aircraft.cfg than I have - and as a matter of fact, there's another equally superb P-47 batch out from another payware company and that's aeroplaneheaven.com!tom 'Gnoopey' kohlerBTW - if you'd use only around 1,000-1,700 RPM's for taxi (depending on weight and ground 'character'), your ground handling 'life' would be also much easier :)http://gnoopey.dyndns.org:8000/images/B-29/SFM-slogo.jpg--

>>BTW - if you'd use only around 1,000-1,700 RPM's for taxi>(depending on weight and ground 'character'), your ground>handling 'life' would be also much easier :)>not to mention longer ;)

Thanks ALL for the response. I like the comment that the brakes on the "Gnoopey" P-47 are "Benign" compared to some other P-47s out there. I've noticed that the tailwheel doesn't "Castor" in the sim. Based on the way the tailwheel retracts into the tail with doors closing behind it, I wonder if the REAL Thing was Non Castoring as well. A Non castoring tail wheel would explain the lack of smoothness when swinging the tail around when taxiing. I have learned to use Full Up elevator when doing any maneuvering on the ground. If the plane is "stationary" and you want to make a tight turn...Full Up elevators while holding One differential brake, then add moderate power. The plane will turn smoothly in it's own length.Thanks Gnoopy for the formula to modify the brakes. I'm not a computer person so will not being trying it however. :9 Regards: SPOFF

>Thanks ALL for the response. I like the comment that the>brakes on the "Gnoopey" P-47 are "Benign" compared to some>other P-47s out there. I've noticed that the tailwheel>doesn't "Castor" in the sim. Based on the way the tailwheel>retracts into the tail with doors closing behind it, I wonder>if the REAL Thing was Non Castoring as well. A Non castoring>tail wheel would explain the lack of smoothness when swinging>the tail around when taxiing. >the model has a castoring tail wheel modeled ...>I have learned to use Full Up elevator when doing any>maneuvering on the ground. If the plane is "stationary" and>you want to make a tight turn...Full Up elevators while>holding One differential brake, then add moderate power. The>plane will turn smoothly in it's own length.>pulling the elevator locks the tail wheel - and you don't have to pull it fully to your belly to get the effect, a few percent is enough. THAT's not historically correct! 'Real' Thunderbolts just had a lever to lock / unlock the tail wheel but I used this setup because it enables easier and more intuitive ground handling IMNSHO. If you do this without pulling the elevator, you'd be amazed if watching from the outside. If you'd help with the rudder and throttling forward and backwards the propwash on the rudder will also help alot to 'turn on a dime' although the original POH will tell you that one shouldn't turn around a completely blocked main wheel. The inner wheel should always roll to prevent material fatigue ;)tom 'Gnoopey' kohlerhttp://gnoopey.dyndns.org:8000/images/B-29/SFM-slogo.jpg--if it ain't broke, don't fix it

Thanks Gnoopey for the info. I'll try using neutral elevator and see how it works. Instinct always causes me to use UP Elevator when taxiing with any taildragger to prevent propwash from "lifting" the tail. I have used propwash to blow the tail around on other taildraggers with some success. One must be careful however with 2800 HP. I wonder what a 4 Blade 12 foot diameter prop would cost today??The MAAM DC-3 has a castoring tail wheel that can be locked and unlocked but I prefer leaving it unlocked even during takeoff, finding the propwash on the rudder and judicious "goosing" of the throttle to be effective for steering. SPOFF

Gnoopey: I just got back from my local virtual airport. I tried your suggestions. Neutral elevators. IT WORKS! Now I can make smooth turns on the ground. Thanks again for a Great Plane.Regards: SPOFF :-)

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