ive been simming since fs 2000 and never had a problem turning all lights o "L"but i cannot for the life of me turn on the panel lights in the baron or the bell at night,am i getting old?any ideaspaul

See if Shift L works, that's a direct key for Panel/Nav Lights.

I found that the shader tweak (turning it off) caused the panel lights in the Barron not to work. Turning shaders back on solved it.Robert