October 24, 200619 yr I was practicing a few touch and go's last night at Liverpool (EGGP) and i was flying them myself without ap assistans all i hade was radio's setand the fd and ils pushed in the panel.Here comes the problem after i hade done 2 touch and go's and was in for my 3rd landing it all went fine except i was to low and the panel flashed TOGA and A-FLOOR and the autothrottlegot armed and i went to go around but thenthe autothrottle didnt want to disengage atall whatever i tried so i got to climb to3000 feet and then i successfully got it disengaged.So on my 4th landing and i was at 1000 feet once again it got armed same trouble and i hade to goaround and tried this a few times and everytime around 2000 feet and approaching around 5-6 nmit got activated so what i am wondering is this a bug or have i done something really weird?
October 24, 200619 yr I think that's how the real one actually works. There is almost no phase of flight which is flown in the Airbus with the autothrottle DISengaged, from what I have read. Modes vary according to that phase.What you are seeing is actually what allegedly caused the crash of that Airbus at an airshow near Mulhouse in 1988 - the pilot was doing a low-slow flypast and when he opened up to go around the aircraft decided it was still in landing mode and would not deliver the power the pilot asked for. I'm not au fait with the details but this was a very dirty case with all sorts of allegations being made. Pilot error was proven, and the captain was jailed for manslaughter (3 people died of the 137 on board) but subsequently it was shown that the black boxes used as evidence were not the same boxes as taken from the aircraft, and several vital seconds of data were missing in the FDR, casuing the data to be out of synch with the crash sequence taken on video. And looking at the skill with which the pilot kept the wings level despite being deep into a stall and ensured a wings level descent into trees, they should have given him a medal, not banged him up.All very mysterious, but perhaps the FSX Learning Centre can throw more light on the a/p and a/t of the Airbus? It's not an aircraft I have any interested in flying in FS (having had quite a bit of time in a real world simulator it just wouldn't be the same!).Allcott
October 24, 200619 yr Thanks for the help Allcott :-)I checked in the learning center about the Airbus A321 and it's specs and autothrottle and it's has u said the autothrottle has to be engaged during the flightphases and i did a few touch and go's and tried it around and it worked but has soon u leftthe autothrottle disengage during climb and flight it engage almost again during approach/landing or if uget to low it engaged to avoid crash and u seethe TOGA and A-Floor on panel and it started climbingand added thrust.
October 24, 200619 yr I just checked out the Learning Centre and the inclusion of information about the Airbus is scarce at best. There is no information on what is different about the Airbus compared to the Boeings and the systems would seem to be identical according to the manual, when we already know they are not. The FF for the Airbus provides a deliberate pitch trim change to mimic flare forces, for example.In fact, it looks like a lot of the information in the Learning Centre was just ported from the previous FS version as there's little mention of Airbus in the general information sections which refer to jets - they don't mention the CRJ much either. Halfway through the information section on flying the Airbus the nomenclature on flaps changes from the Airbus system - Flaps 1, 2, 3, 4 5 to `Flaps 40` as used on Boeing flap indicators. And that is used as the standard flap setting for landing the Airbus without explaining what Flaps 40 equals in airbus-speak. And there are typos a-plenty throughout the manual, some gauranteed to cause problems for anyone tryignto follow it.This is not good enough, ACES. Oh, and its not an Airbus conspiracy, the LC on the Boeing refers to a yaw damper that doesn't exist! Actually, this is woeful. We want new arrivals in this hobby and the manual included with FSX should be adequate to explain all modes of operation for all aircraft without confusion. There is no mention for example, that autothrottle and autopilot are now separate devices and switching off the a/p does not switch off the a/t. That needs to be in BIG, BOLD letters in there.As an experience FS user, even I find the Leanring Centre to be short on information, so God knows what a newbie will (or rather wont) find when they try to find some basic information.Who proof-read the manuals? Who wrote them? Will the LC be updated as part of the upgrade patch? Allcott
October 24, 200619 yr I have flown since the Fs98 days but i know in the PSS Airbus A320 and the A330-A340 Series u need the autothrottle engaged during the phases of flight hasu said but i hadent flown for over a year since and juststarted with FSX and forgott some details. :-lol But i am not sure if u need the autothrottle engagedor not with the pss A320 when the a/p was disconnected.Also has u said Allcott the learning center and the manualis really short and somewhat low on information and for a beginner has to a comeing back experienced flight user to flightsimming it cant be easy to find or know this info in some cases depending on which aircraftsu been used to flying during the other versions or has a beginner just maybe tried the other jets.But i did see though in the learning center even it said it in somewhat weird way u need it engaged with a/p on or offduring flight and has i mentioned above did a few go aroundsand it worked with autothrottle on and when not on and approaching/landing or to low to avoid crash it engaged the autothrottleand TOGA and A-FLOOR flashing on the panel and took u to has safe Altitude and speed.But i must say i really like FSX alot and its flight models :-)
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